Apr 24, 2025 Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting

AMONG US. AS WE LEAD US IN THE CONVERSATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS WE WILL HAVE.

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[1. Call Meeting To Order, Establish Quorum]

[A. Prayer]

[B. Pledge of Allegiance]

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. DO WE HAVE CERTIFICATION OF PUBLIC NOTICE? YES, SIR. MISTER CHAIRMAN, STAFF DID NOTIFY THE PUBLIC AS PER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON FRIDAY, APRIL 17TH AT 5 P.M..

THANK YOU. ANY DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH THE COMMISSION? NO, SIR. NONE. ALL RIGHT.

MEETING PROCEDURES. WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. IF A RESIDENT DESIRES TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE NOTIFY THE CHAIRPERSON PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING. A SPOKESPERSON FOR LARGE GROUPS IS REQUIRED.

WE ASK FOR EVERYONE'S COOPERATION IN FOLLOWING THESE PROCEDURES.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CONSIDER THE EVIDENCE. WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER EXCUSING THE ABSENCE OF COMMISSIONER MEMBER RENÉ OLIVARES FROM THE APRIL 10TH, 2020 REGULAR MEETING. CAN I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. SECOND. IN FAVOR?

[2. Certification of Public Notice]

[3. Disclosure of Conflict of Interest]

[4. Meeting Procedures]

SO MOVED. IS EVERYBODY IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANYBODY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE APRIL 10TH, 2020 REGULAR MEETING. MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM EIGHT A WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE REZONING REQUEST FROM RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN DISTRICT TO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

BEING A 47.98 ACRES TRACT OF LAND OUT OF AND FORMING A PART OR PORTION OF LOTS FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, AND NINE.

BLOCK EIGHT. SANTA CRUZ GARDENS, UNIT NUMBER THREE SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 2812 EAST DAVIS ROAD. STAFF.

HELLO. ALEX GONZALEZ, PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.

SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE INTERSECTION OF DAVIS ROAD AND NORTH DOOLITTLE ROAD. THE PROPERTY HAS A TOTAL FLOOR AREA OF APPROXIMATELY 48 ACRES.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH OUR LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY.

AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO GO TO RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY DISTRICT.

THE APPLICANT INDICATED THE REASON FOR THIS REQUEST IS TO ESTABLISH A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THIS LOCATION.

SURROUNDING ZONING IS PRETTY MUCH RESIDENTIAL USES, AND IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

[8. PUBLIC HEARINGS]

[A. Consider the Rezoning Request from Residential, Suburban (RS) District to Residential,]

IF APPROVED, THEY WILL ALSO NEED TO COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME I'LL GO TO THE FLOOR FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE FLOOR COMMISSION. MOVE TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND THAT. BE IN FAVOR.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM EIGHT B, WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FROM AUTO URBAN USES AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES AND THE REZONING REQUEST FROM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT, BEING A 0.836 OF ONE ACRE OUT OF LOT ONE, BLOCK TWO STEELE AND PERSHING SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 2610 WEST CANTON ROAD.

STAFF. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST CANTON ROAD.

THE PROPERTY HAS A TOTAL FRONTAGE OF APPROXIMATELY 295FT ALONG WEST CANTON ROAD.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS OUR OUR LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

[B. Consider the Comprehensive Plan Amendment from Auto-Urban Uses and Neighborhood]

THIS PROPERTY WAS REZONED BACK IN 2022 FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

STAFF MAILED A NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, AND WE RECEIVED A NO COMMENTS IN FAVOR OR AGAINST AT THE TIME THE REPORT WAS PREPARED.

HOWEVER, WE DID RECEIVE ONE AFTER THE REPORT WAS FINALIZED.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST BASED ON THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA AND THE SURROUNDING ZONING.

IF APPROVED, THEY WILL ALSO NEED TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS DURING THE PERMITTING PROCESS. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WANT TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? NO COMMENTS. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE FLOOR. COMMISSION MOTION TO APPROVE. THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. WE HAVE A SECOND.

EVERYBODY IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. EVERYBODY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

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[C. Consider Variance Request to the City Of Edinburg Unified Development Code as Follows:]

ARTICLE FOUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS DIVISION 4.300 SIGN SECTION 4.303 PERMANENT SIGNS.

ORIGINAL TOWN SITE OF EDINBURGH.

BLOCK 250 LOT THREE THROUGH NINE LOCATED AT 410 EAST UNIVERSITY DRIVE.

STAFF. YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SO AFTER REVIEWING THE REQUEST AND AFTER FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT, HE IS GOING TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO THIS ITEM IS REQUESTED TO BE PULLED.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION THAT.

MR.. OKAY. SO WE'RE MOVING ON.

NO ACTION. MOVING ON TO NINE A VARIANCE.

CONSIDER THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO THE CITY OF EDINBURGH UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AS FOLLOWS ONE. ARTICLE FIVE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS.

SECTION 5.210. UTILITIES TWO.

[A. Consider Variance Request to the City of Edinburg Unified Development Code as follows: 1.)]

LOT FIVE, SECTION TWO.

40. TEXAS TEXAS MEXICAN RAILWAY COMPANY SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 2900 NORTH MACK ROAD.

YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF NORTH MONARCH ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 330FT NORTH OF WEST ROGERS ROAD, AND IT'S CURRENTLY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF EDINBURG.

THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS GOING TO BE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME.

IT'S ABOUT 3.4 ACRES, AND CURRENTLY THE PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR RANCHO BUENA IS ALSO GOING TO BE CONSIDERED.

THE DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING VARIANCES TO THE CITY OF CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THERE'S TWO. THE FIRST VARIANCE REQUEST IS TO OUR UTILITIES SECTION.

THEY ARE REQUESTING TO BE ON SEPTIC TANK INSTEAD OF CONNECTING TO THE SEWER LINE THAT IS LOCATED IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.

THE SECOND IS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MINIMUM LOT WIDTH STANDARDS.

ACCORDING TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH FOR THIS TYPE OF ZONING IS 90FT. CURRENTLY, THIS IS THROUGH AN ACCESS DRIVE, AND THEY ARE REQUESTING THAT IT BE ALLOWED TO BE AT 25FT.

THE STAFF DOES RECOMMEND IT NOW, AS THIS DOES GO AGAINST THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND THE ENGINEER OF RECORD IS HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE FLOOR OF THE ENGINEER.

YOU'D LIKE TO STEP UP. HERE.

JUST ON TIME. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS DAVID SALINAS. I REPRESENT THE BUENA FAMILY IN TRYING TO PLOT THIS PROPERTY.

AS TO BEGIN WITH, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PROPERTY.

THEY GOT ABOUT 28FT OR SO OF FRONTAGE ALONG MONMOUTH.

THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE.

ONE OF THE VARIANCES IS TO ALLOW THEM TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THIS RELATIVELY LARGE LOT. FOR ONE HOME, WITH ONLY HAVING A FRONTAGE OF 28FT, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE.

SO THAT'S ONE VARIANCE.

THE SECOND VARIANCE HAS TO DO WITH SEWER.

AS STAFF PRESENTED, THERE IS A SEWER LINE THAT RUNS ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF MONMOUTH ROAD. I BELIEVE THAT SEWER LINE MAY HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS BUILT.

IT'S A IT'S A DEEP ENOUGH LINE THAT THEORETICALLY, YOU COULD CONNECT TO THAT LINE AND YOU COULD RUN THE SANITARY SEWER TO THE BACK OF THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS WHERE THE HOUSE WOULD BE BUILT.

IT COMES DOWN TO REALLY.

MONEY, LIKE MOST THINGS, COME DOWN TO MONEY.

THE LINE IS DEEP ENOUGH FOR IT TO BE EXTENDED.

THE LINE WOULD BE EXTENDED SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS ONE HOUSE.

IF YOU WERE TO USE MINIMUM DISTANCES FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE SEWER LINE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT $25,000 FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

AND SO THAT COST IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR A ONE HOME, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, 350FT TO RUN A SEWER LINE, YOU COULD THEORETICALLY PUT IN 5 OR 6 LOTS ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF 350FT, AND THEN THE COST BECOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE REASONABLE.

BUT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BUILD ONE HOME AND THE HOME, THE LOCATION OF HOME I THINK IS GOING TO BE TOWARD THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY. THE 350FT REPRESENT THE DISTANCE FROM THE EXISTING SEWER LINE TO WHERE THE PROPERTY STARTS TO OPEN UP. OKAY. AND THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM DISTANCE, BECAUSE THEN YOU BUILD A HOME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LOT AND THEY BUILD A SERVICE CONNECTION FROM THE HOME TO THE SEWER LINE.

BUT IT COMES DOWN TO. LIKE MOST THINGS, MANY THINGS, IT COMES DOWN TO MONEY.

HAVING TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY FOR THE SEWER LINE TO SERVICE ONE HOME, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A PROBABLY STAFF WOULD LOOK AT IT,

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THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO ASK FOR AN EIGHT INCH LINE. AND THAT'S REASONABLE.

YOU GOT TO PUT A COUPLE OF MANHOLES.

YOU'VE GOT TO BORE UNDERNEATH OR OPEN CUT ON MAC ROAD, WHICH IS AN EXPENSIVE THING TO DO BECAUSE THE LINE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO THERE'S NOTHING INEXPENSIVE ABOUT TRYING TO PROVIDE SEWER FOR THIS SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

AS A RESULT OF THAT, THEY HAVE COME TO YOU TODAY, AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THAT THEY ALLOWED TO DO A SEPTIC TANK INSTEAD.

I WOULDN'T NORMALLY AGREE WITH SUCH A REQUEST, EXCEPT FOR THE GEOMETRY OF THE PROPERTY, THE WAY IT SITS AND THE DISTANCES THAT YOU HAVE TO GO TO GET TO THE HOME, AND YOU'RE NOT REALLY GETTING TO THE HOME.

WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THE PROPERTY OPENS UP, AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU BUILD YOUR HOME. AND THEN THE PLUMBERS GOT TO BUILD THAT SERVICE CONNECTION TO THAT LINE.

SO THEORETICALLY, THERE IS YOU COULD BUILD A LINE LONGER IF YOU WANTED TO, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST THE VERY BARE MINIMUM.

AND SO IF YOU DO THE NUMBERS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 25 GRAND TO DO THAT.

IT'S NOT THAT THE LINE IS NOT DEEP ENOUGH. IT CAN BE DONE LIKE A LOT OF THINGS CAN BE DONE.

IT JUST COMES DOWN TO BEING ABLE TO BE FRUGAL WITH THE MONEY THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO BUILD ONE HOME. THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.

SO WE ONLY HAVE THE DISTANCE IN THE FRONT THAT WE HAVE.

WE CAN'T BUY ANY MORE PROPERTY TO THE LEFT OR TO THE RIGHT TO INCREASE THE FRONTAGE, BECAUSE WE'VE TRIED TO DO THAT.

AND THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER WAY TO SOLVE THE ISSUE OF SEWER OTHER THAN TO REQUEST A VARIANCE IN THEIR MIND, TO REQUEST A VARIANCE AND ALLOW THE SEPTIC TANK. YES, SIR. ON THE.

I'M SORRY. CAN I ASSUME THAT THE HOMES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THAT PROPERTY ALSO HAVE SEPTIC TANKS? YES, SIR.

YOU CAN ASSUME THAT THERE ARE THOSE HOMES.

YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN THERE A LONG, LONG TIME.

OKAY. AND THEY WERE PART OF EDINBURGH. THAT WASN'T EDINBURGH. MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO WHEN THEY WERE BUILT. SO YES, ALL THOSE HOMES ON THAT SIDE ARE ALL ON SEPTIC TANK. BUT IF THEY WERE TO BUILD A NEW HOME, THEY WOULD THOSE HOUSES WOULD HAVE TO CONNECT TO THE SEWER.

OR WHATEVER. YOU BULLDOZE THE HOUSE, YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW HOUSE ON THOSE LOTS.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONNECT TO THE STORY. IF THEY COME IN FOR A BUILDING PERMIT, THEY WOULD TRIGGER THAT. YES, YES THAT'S CORRECT.

OF COURSE. THEY'RE LOCATED ALONG THE ROAD. WE'RE NOT ALONG THE ROAD. WE'RE WAY IN THE BACK. BUT BUT YES THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'S DEFINITELY EASIER FOR YOU GUYS. YES, ABSOLUTELY.

AND PROBABLY WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU WOULD TRY AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT SITUATION AND TRY AND GET THE SEWER LINE TO BE DEEP ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO EXTEND IT TO ALL THE OTHER HOMES.

YEAH. ONE BORE AND YOU WOULD AND YOU AND YOU WOULD TEE IT.

EXACTLY. THAT WOULD BE THE, THAT WOULD BE THE, THE LOGICAL THING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I KNOW PETER MAY KNOW THIS.

IF YOU WERE TO HAVE TO BORE UNDERNEATH AND YOU WERE TO USE A SIX INCH LINE BECAUSE A SIX INCH WILL DEFINITELY SERVICE A ONE HOME, RIGHT? IT DOES COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

AND IF YOU WERE TO DO A CLEAN OUT INSTEAD OF A MANHOLE, MAKE IT CHEAPER, YOU KNOW, TO WHERE THE PROPERTY WIDENS.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU THINK UTILITIES WOULD APPROVE? YES. FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS PETER WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

COMMISSIONER CHAIR. AS OF NOW, THE REQUIREMENTS ARE ONLY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME.

THE REQUIREMENTS ARE ONLY A FOUR INCH FOR THE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN THE AREA. SO YES.

WHAT WHAT IS ACCURATE IS WHAT MR. SALINAS DID INDICATE IT WOULD BE REQUIRED A DIRECTIONAL BORE.

MINIMUM SLOPING IS FOR ONE INCH ONE 1% SLOPE ON ALL SURFACES WITHIN THE CITY, AND ESPECIALLY CONNECTIONS TO ANY OF THE CITY.

SO YOU. SO YOU COULD DO A 6 INCH OR 8 INCH BORE STICK STICK A FOUR INCH PIPE IN THERE AND THAT WOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH.

THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY.

AND THEN YOU COULD MAYBE INSTEAD OF DOING A MANHOLE, COULD HE DO A CLEAN OUT JUST AT THE VERY END? IT WOULD JUST BE A CLEAN OUT AT THE REAL, REAL SHALLOW, I'M SURE. YEAH. IT WOULD JUST BE A CLEAN OUT THERE AT THE PROPERTY LINE. SO IT WOULD JUST BE A SINGLE CLEAN OUT THERE AS PER THE CITY REQUIREMENTS.

SO WOULD THIS BE A SERVICE OR WOULD THIS BE AN ACTUAL LINE LIKE A MAIN.

WELL, I MEAN WOULD IT BE A SERVICE? WOULD IT BE CONSIDERED? IT'S A LONG SERVICE.

IT WOULD BE. YEAH. CITY REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE JUST A SINGLE SERVICE.

NOT NOT AN ENTIRE MAIN.

IT'S A VERY LONG. IT WOULD BE A FOUR INCH FROM THE HOUSE ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE. BORE UNDERNEATH, BUT PROBABLY EIGHT INCH YOU DON'T NEED.

IN ESSENCE, YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

BUT WOULD THE DEPTH MAKE IT NOW WITH THE DEPTH MAKE IT? SINCE IT'S A SMALLER LINE, YOU NEED A GREATER SLOPE.

YEAH. MY ONLY CONCERN, PETER, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS CORRECT.

OKAY. MY ONLY CONCERN WITH USING A FOUR INCH LINE IS THAT YOU'RE GOING SUCH A LONG DISTANCE THAT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THAT LINE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET PLUGGED UP BECAUSE IT'S MULTIPLE CLEAN OUTS BECAUSE IT'S SO SMALL.

OKAY. BUT THEORETICALLY, COULD YOU PUT SHOULD YOU TIE A FOUR INCH LINE INTO THE EIGHT INCH LINE AND COME UNDERNEATH THE ROAD, CONTINUE ANOTHER 300FT OR SO AND STOP WITH A CLEAN OUT? SURE, SURE. I'M JUST I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE OPTIONS.

SURE. NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THE COST WOULD PROBABLY YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT COST BECAUSE WE'D ELIMINATE A MANHOLE.

YOU STILL GOT TO DO THE BORE. AND THAT'S. THAT'S ALWAYS AN EXPENSIVE THING TO DO. IT'S

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YEAH. YEAH. SO, THEORETICALLY, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD DEAL.

MY ONLY CONCERN IS THE LINE IS STILL TOO SMALL.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A FOUR, MAYBE WE WOULD CONSIDER A6A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE. AT LEAST UNDER THE ROAD. SURE, SURE, SURE. I MEAN, THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR IN THE PROPERTY.

THERE ARE OPTIONS. I, I APOLOGIZE, I BUILD SUBDIVISIONS.

SURE, SURE. NO. YEAH, SURE.

I MEAN, THAT IS POSSIBLE. MY ONLY CONCERN IS, LIKE I SAID, THE PLUGGING OF THE LINE.

IF IT'S TOO SMALL, YOU'RE CONNECTING TO. IS THAT WHERE THE.

THE SEWER LINE RUNS ON THE SEWER LINES ON THE WEST SIDE OF MONMOUTH.

IT RUNS PARALLEL. AND I THINK IT WAS BUILT. DON'T DON'T QUOTE ME, BUT I THINK IT WAS BUILT BY THE SCHOOL. SO IT'S FOR THE SCHOOL. YOU HAVE SERVICE FOR THE SCHOOL. BUT THE BIG COST ITEM IS TO BORE THE ROAD.

THAT'S THAT'S $150 A FOOT TO GET UNDER THAT ROAD.

WHETHER YOU BORE OR YOU OPEN CUT, IT'S STILL AN EXPENSIVE DEAL. THAT THING IS.

WHAT IS IT? FOUR LANES THERE OR IS IT TWO LANES? IS IT 120? WELL, RIGHT NOW IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD, BLACKTOP ROAD, BUT YOU HAVE IT PROJECTED TO BE MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT. IT'S A KIND OF A COLLECTOR PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL TYPE OF DEAL.

SO IN EFFECT, MR. SALINAS, YOU'RE AT BEST YOU'RE DROPPING THAT TO HALF OF THE MAYBE HALF, MAYBE HALF.

YEAH. STILL 12,000 PLUS.

WHAT TYPE OF HOUSE ARE THEY BUILDING? JUST A REGULAR HOME. THEY'RE BUILDING FOR THEIR FAMILY. IT'S FOR THEMSELVES. YEAH, YEAH.

THEY CAME TO THE CITY BEFORE THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY TO SEE IF IT COULD, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WOULD ALLOW THEM TO BUILD A HOME. THE CITY SAID. YES, BUT YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS. SO QUESTION FOR STAFF.

IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE ON THE ENTRANCE, THE INGRESS AND EGRESS, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO APPLY TO LIKE TO DO A SUBDIVISION LATER ON OR NO? YES. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE CAN CONSIDER APPROVE THE THE VARIANCE ON THE WIDTH OF THE LOT, BUT MAYBE HAVE THEM STILL HOOK UP TO THE SEWER LINE.

OKAY. WELL ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN DO TO PROTECT THAT PORTION OF WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS YOU PUT A PLAT NOTE THAT SAYS, HEY, LOOK, GUYS, THIS IS GOING TO BE ALL YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD ON THIS PROPERTY UNLESS YOU CAN GET WIDER FRONTAGE TO ON MAC, BUT OTHERWISE, AS LONG AS IT REMAINS 28FT WIDE, IT'LL ALWAYS BE A ONE LOT PLAT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF US AS A P AND Z BOARD CAN CONDITION AN APPROVAL, AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN. JOSE.

YEAH. I'M OKAY WITH THE IF THEY WERE, IF THEY WERE GOING TO COME BACK AND BUILD ANOTHER PROPERTY ON THERE, THEY'D STILL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR ANOTHER VARIANCE. CORRECT. SO THAT WAS MORE MY CONCERN IS THAT, WELL, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BUILD ONE HOME. BUT WHAT IF NOW YOU KNOW, MY SON WANTS TO BUILD A HOUSE NEXT DOOR AND YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A SECOND HOME.

YOU'D STILL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR ANOTHER VARIANCE ON THAT PROPERTY. YOU MAY BE ABLE TO DO A FAMILY PART AT THAT POINT.

YOU MIGHT NEED IT ANYWAY, RIGHT? ANYTIME YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE AN EXTRA LOT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE CITY. AND I WOULD BE INCLINED TO THINK THE CITY WOULD DENY IT.

AND I THINK ON BETTER GROUNDS THAT, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU ONLY HAVE 20FT OF FRONTAGE, RIGHT? THAT'S UNLESS YOU CAN ACQUIRE PROPERTY FROM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS. WE'VE TRIED TO DO THAT. THERE WAS NO LUCK DOING THAT.

FROM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS TO WHITE TO WHITE.

THERE WAS NO WAY THAT THEY WERE NOT IN A POSITION TO PROVIDE ANY MORE PROPERTY.

YEAH. WE TRIED. I MEAN, THE WIDTH.

YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE WIDTH. THANK YOU, MR. SULLIVAN. YEAH. THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VICTOR, YOU COULD APPROVE THE LOT WITH LIKE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS VARIANCE SEPARATELY. RIGHT? I WOULD IMAGINE. RIGHT.

CHAIRMAN, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO RECOGNIZE VERY QUICKLY THE OWNERS ARE HERE.

I THINK I DIDN'T SEE THEM WHEN I WALKED IN. I GUESS THEY WEREN'T HERE, BUT THEY'RE HERE NOW IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM. OKAY. BUT THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR NOT? CLOSE THE FLOOR. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT SEPARATELY. THINK EACH VARIANTS. ARE THEY SEPARATE VARIANCES? YES.

THEY ARE PRESENTED AS TWO DIFFERENT VARIANTS. WE CAN TAKE WE CAN TAKE WE CAN TAKE THEM SEPARATELY. RIGHT. RECOMMENDING DENIAL ON BOTH.

CORRECT. OKAY. I MEAN, IF I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON ONE AT LEAST.

OKAY. WELL, I'M GOING TO GO AND CLOSE THE FLOOR AND WE CAN MAKE A MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO AGAINST STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL ON THE WITH WIDENING ON THE SORRY ON THE 28 FOOT ENTRANCE.

THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE. OKAY.

AND I THINK THAT'S I HAVE A MOTION ON THE WIDTH OF THE LOT.

IS THAT 2 OR 1? THAT WOULD BE ONE IS ONE IS THAT'S VARIANCE NUMBER TWO.

THAT WOULD BE VARIANCE NUMBER TWO. OKAY. ON VARIANCE NUMBER TWO UTILITIES FIRST.

YEAH THAT'S THE OKAY THE ORDER.

IT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU ALREADY MADE THE MOTION. YOU ALREADY MADE A MOTION ON NUMBER TWO. CAN WE STAY ON THAT.

OKAY. YEAH. WE HAVE A SECOND.

OKAY. EVERYBODY IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. WHAT DO YOU OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES FOR VARIANCE NUMBER TWO ON THE LOT WIDTH.

ON THE LOT WIDTH? YES.

NOW VARIANCE NUMBER ONE ON THE UTILITIES.

I'VE JUST GOT ONE QUESTION. WHAT'S THE BIG POND THERE TO THE RIGHT. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. IS THAT A IS THAT IS THAT A THAT'S NOT A POND.

THAT'S NOT A WHERE WE DRINK WATER FROM.

THAT'S A SWALE. YEAH. WE'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF DRAINAGE DETENTION ON THE PROPERTY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT HAND CORNER. THERE'S ON THE RIGHT HAND. IS

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YES, THAT IS A MAGIC VALLEY.

OKAY. THAT'S LIKE THEIR WATER POND.

YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS WATER.

OKAY. YEAH. REALLY, REALLY QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.

I MEAN, SO THIS THE SEWER LINES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE OF MONARCH.

I MEAN, WHAT WOULD THE COST BE IF IT WAS ON THE EAST SIDE? I MEAN, WOULD IT BE A IT'D BE A LITTLE CHEAPER.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO. LITTLE CHEAPER. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO BORE UNDERNEATH. YOU WOULD SAVE ON THE BORING. YEAH.

JUST ABOUT CROSSING THE STREET.

$6,000? YEAH. TRYING TO GET THE BORING UNDERNEATH EVERYTHING.

I'LL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THE FOR THE SEWAGE AS WELL. THE FIRST ONE WHICH IS OUR UTILITIES AND THE UTILITIES.

SO YOU'RE RECOMMENDING AN APPROVAL, CORRECT.

APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND WE HAVE A SECOND.

EVERYBODY IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. EVERYBODY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES 4 TO 1.

OKAY. ITEM TEN B I THINK IS JUST ATTENDANCE.

WHAT WAS THE ONE 28FT.

NO NO NO. WHO VOTED AGAINST IT? I DID. GOOD EVENING. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL ACTION

[10. DIRECTOR’S REPORT]

AND THAT ITEM WAS TABLED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

[A. City Council Actions]

I THINK MAY THE 6TH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

SO IS IT JUST GOING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBER CITY COUNCIL? CORRECT. AND I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE APPLICANT, AND HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO TRY TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO SEE IF HE CAN KIND OF GET THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE REZONING.

AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER REZONING FOR THE PROPERTY ON HOEING, WHICH WAS GOING FROM MULTIFAMILY TO SINGLE FAMILY.

THAT ONE WAS APPROVED.

AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER REZONING ON SOUTH JACKSON IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, WHICH THE PNC SUPPORTED, AND SO DID THE COUNCIL.

AND THEN THE LAST ITEM WAS A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THE STREET WIDENING COST OF A PROPERTY ON

[B. Attendance Roster]

THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN ON THAT ITEM.

THERE IS SOME STATE LEGISLATION GOING ON ON THE TJS.

SO THE COUNCIL VOTED NOT TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THAT ITEM AND KIND OF WAIT OUT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE CAPITOL.

SO I GOT A QUESTION ON THAT.

DO YOU KNOW THE TIME FRAME OF WHEN THAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS ACTION ON CAPITAL? THE STATE LEGISLATION IS GOING ON NOW.

IT JUST STARTED DIDN'T IT? WELL, IT STARTED IN JANUARY FEBRUARY.

BUT THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION ENDS AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE.

SO UNLESS THEY ADD A SPECIAL SESSION.

BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA BY THE BEGINNING OF JUNE.

OKAY. SO THAT PERSON ON CESAR CHAVEZ IS GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL JUNE OR MAYBE IN SEPTEMBER WHEN IT TAKES EFFECT.

WHATEVER THE DECISION IS.

THAT'S CORRECT. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE LEGALITY OF THAT? LIKE, IF I BRING SOMETHING TO THE CITY AND I'M ASKING FOR YOU TO VOTE ON IT, YAY OR NAY, DON'T YOU KIND OF HAVE TO.

THE COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON AN ITEM.

AND IT JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S DEADLINES ATTACHED TO THAT.

SHOT CLOCK RULE. KIND OF.

IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE REQUEST IS.

YEAH. BECAUSE THEY COULD JUST SAY, HEY, IT'S BEEN 30 DAYS OR 45 DAYS.

Y'ALL DIDN'T VOTE ON IT. WELL, AND THERE'S SOME THINGS BY OPERATION OF LAW WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW THAT ARE YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF A DETERMINATION IS MADE BASED ON A TIME FRAME.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE ASK IS.

LIKE, IN THIS CASE, WOULD THAT APPLY TO THEM? NO, I THINK THAT'S MORE FOR LIKE A SUBDIVISION OR A OR PERMIT.

THIS WAS A VARIANCE REQUEST SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. INTERESTING.

AND THAT'S ALL I GOT. YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

WHEN'S OUR NEXT MEETING. NEXT MEETING IS IN TWO WEEKS.

TWO WEEKS. SO THAT'S THE EIGHTH OR SOMETHING? OR IS IT THE EIGHTH? IT WOULD BE THE EIGHTH.

THE EIGHTH? YEP. MAY 8TH.

HOW MANY ITEMS ON THAT MEETING? I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIGNED VARIANCE FOR THE GASOLINE STATION ON MONTE CRISTO.

MOLATE NOTICES GO OUT TOMORROW.

OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. SECOND IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED?

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