Nov 14, 2024 Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting

ON THIS TONIGHT. I REALLY JUST WANTED TO GET THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THIS

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THESE PEOPLE THAT CAME AND SPOKE ABOUT YOUR LAND, IT'S IT'S HEARTENING, BUT WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AS A AS A AS A FACT FINDING MISSION TO FIND OUT WHAT IS THE BEST THING FOR THE CITY OF EDINBURGH. AND YOU'RE PART OF IT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE NOT PART OF IT.

YOU GOT TO BE THOUGHT UP INTO THE EQUATION OF THE WHOLE THING.

AND THAT'S AND THAT'S MY SOAPBOX.

MAYOR. THANK YOU. END OF THE DAY, WE JUST NEED TO SIT DOWN AND WE'RE GETTING INFORMATION FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET IT ON PAPER, GET OUR FACTS STRAIGHT, SEE EXACTLY WHAT WHAT IS ACTUALLY THE TRUTH AND WHAT IS NOT.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN TOLD DIFFERENT THINGS. ORIGINALLY THE PLAN WAS AT 490, AND THAT WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN.

AND WE GOT IN LIGHT OF NEW INFORMATION, WE HAD TO CHANGE THINGS. SO SO WE'RE RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARDS LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER WHITE SAID THAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DISCUSS IT, BRING EVERYONE TO THE TABLE AND SEE WHAT'S THE BEST OPTION TO FOR THE TRUCK DRIVERS, BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP THE TRUCK DRIVERS GOING. DIFFERENT ROUTES, NOT ONLY FOR TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC CONCERNS AS OF LATE, BUT IT KEEPS IT SAFER, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THERE'S DIFFERENT ROUTES FOR THE TRUCK DRIVERS TO GO. SO THAT'S ALSO A CONCERN FOR THE FUTURE OF A REGION OF THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY, NOT JUST EDINBURG, BUT THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY.

WHAT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL LONG TERM FOR THE NEXT TEN TO 20 OR 30 YEARS? BECAUSE WE NEED A PLAN FOR THAT GROWTH. THE GROWTH IS HAPPENING, THE GROWTH IS HERE, AND WE NEED A PLAN FOR THAT ACCORDINGLY FOR OUR KIDS.

KIDS. AND MY COMMENT IS THAT I WANT TO THANK THE RESIDENTS THAT SHOWED UP.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF ANY REALIGNMENT.

THIS ACCESS TO FORTNITE HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2013.

EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS KNOWN THAT THE THE THE OBJECTIVE WAS TO DECLUTTER THE TRAFFIC FROM THE BORDER, HAVE A ROUTE NORTH TO I-69, AND THAT'S WHERE SH 68 CAME INTO PLAY AND AT THE SAME TIME CAPITALIZE ON TRAFFIC THAT MIGHT EXPAND OUR AIRPORT FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT.

THAT WOULD GENERATE AN EXPLOSION OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THERE.

NOT ONLY THERE, BUT WE ALWAYS SPEAK ABOUT EMPOWERING THE EAST SIDE, EMPOWERING NORTH OF EDINBURG FROM MONTE CRISTO AND CLOSNER ALL THE WAY TO THE AIRPORT WOULD JUST ALSO EXPERIENCE SUCH GROWTH.

AND ALL THE STUDIES, EPA, FAA FLIGHT PATHS, IF YOU DON'T THINK THEY'VE DONE IT IN A DECADE WITHIN THE PAST YEAR, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT CHANGED THAT.

THERE'S ISSUES. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NUMBERS THROWN AROUND.

TRAFFIC LIGHT WAS NEVER PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT JUST CAME TO PLAY IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS. FLIGHT PATHS WAS WAS DISCUSSED IN THE PAST.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S. IS THERE ANY ACTUAL FAA DOCUMENTATION? THAT'S TURNED INTO TO THE DIRECTOR AS FAR AS FAA ISSUE FOR HEIGHT.

JUST A YES OR NO IS NO.

NO. CORRECT. AND AND RESEARCHING AND ASKING QUESTIONS.

TEX-DOT HAS ASSURED THAT THEY WILL WORK WITH THE CITY TO HAVE THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME AND MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER HAPPENS THERE IS GOOD FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS.

COUNCILMAN DE LEON WAS SPEAKING ABOUT THE FUTURE THERE, ASSURING THAT IF WE MAINTAIN THAT ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT, THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT WILL BE GOOD FOR AT LEAST 50 YEARS.

A LOT OF NUMBERS BEING THROWN AROUND.

ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE CREDIT FOR THIS, BUT IT WAS A GREAT SUGGESTION. INSTEAD OF SPEAKING ABOUT SPENDING ANOTHER 100 MILLION GOING NORTH, WHY DON'T WE USE THAT MONEY TO FIX OUR AIRPORT? EXPAND THE RUNWAY SO WE CAN SPEED UP THE CARGO? SPEED UP EVERYTHING WE HAVE THERE.

BORDER SECURITY. WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF OPERATIONS THERE.

I'D MUCH RATHER THAT MONEY BE USED THERE AND SPUR THE ECONOMIC GROWTH BETWEEN EDINBURGH AND ALL THE WAY UP TO THE AIRPORT.

BUT I AM I AM IN FAVOR TO SIT DOWN AGAIN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ALL THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. NO ONE IS IS TRYING TO STAGGER TRAFFIC OR CREATE AN ISSUE.

WE'RE HERE TO TO DO WHAT'S BEST.

I WAS ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS. AND I THINK IT'S BEST IF WE MAINTAIN THAT ALIGNMENT AND THAT THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? JUST TO KIND OF JUST FOLLOW UP WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, IT'S OUR DUTY TO THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE CITY ITSELF TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION AND WITHOUT HAVING THE ACTUAL FACTS. AND WE KEEP ASKING, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE SAID HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH TEXDOT, WITH OUR LEADERSHIP, WITH THE STATE LEVEL, AND WITH ALSO OUR SENATOR, AND PLUS POSSIBLY EVEN SOME OF THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN THE REGION, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO AFFECT EVERYBODY. SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE JUST KIND OF WAIT AND SEE. WE COULD PUT A MEETING TOGETHER FOR, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET ALL OUR ANSWERS THAT WE'RE ASKING MAYOR REAL QUICK.

YES, SIR. IF WE END UP DOING THIS IN A WORK SESSION, CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS WHO SPOKE HERE GET A GET A LETTER OR A TEXT OR SOMETHING, LET THEM KNOW TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE HERE WHEN WHEN TXDOT. SO WE'RE ALL HERE. HOPEFULLY WE'LL DO THIS IN A WORKSHOP. SO WE ALL BE THERE AND NOT JUST A PORTION.

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THAT WAY THEY DON'T FEEL LOST IN THIS.

YES. AND THEY DO REACH OUT TO ME.

THEY'VE THEY'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH ME.

THEY REACHED OUT, WHICH IS HOW THEY KNOW ABOUT THIS MEETING AS WELL.

SO WE DO MAINTAIN COMMUNICATION WITH THE LANDOWNERS.

YEAH. I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, MY FEELING ON THE THING IS I'M INDIFFERENT. I FIRST I WAS WITH IT AND THEN I WAS LIKE, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT'S GOING ON OVER HERE? WHAT'S THE OTHER STUFF THAT'S GOING ON? SO MY WHOLE THING HERE IS BE OPEN MINDED.

SO I'M NOT EITHER WAY AT THIS MOMENT MYSELF, BUT I HAVE TO LISTEN TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND, AND THE AIRPORT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT.

WHAT IS IT A LOT OF WE GOT TO COME DOWN TO IS THE CITY.

AND MYRA, MAYBE YOU CAN COME AND ADDRESS THAT WITH US, TOO, IS WHAT'S OUR FUTURE PLAN FOR THE AIRPORT? IF WE'RE GOING TO BE A SMALL CARGO PLANE WITH CESSNA CAN COME IN HERE, WE CAN DO PRETTY MUCH WHATEVER WE WANT. IF OUR FUTURE IS IN THE NEXT 40, 50 YEARS, WHICH PROBABLY WON'T BE AROUND FOR, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 757.

FROM, FROM FEDEX AND UPS LANDING AT OUR AIRPORT.

AND THAT'S FOR THE FUTURE OF IT IS. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S TAKEN INTO ADDRESS THE THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THE.

DECISION WE MAKE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE BECAUSE WE ALREADY GOT THE FEDEX FACILITY UP THERE. SO OBVIOUSLY WE WERE TRYING TO CATER TO TO GET THAT PART OF OUR AIRPORT CORRECT. AND I WILL SAY FROM, FROM AN EDC STANDPOINT, WE'VE BEEN PROMOTING THIS SH 68 EVER SINCE ITS INCEPTION.

THE ALL THE PLANS JUST RECENTLY WENT TO A BIG COMMERCE TRADE CONVENTION IN MEXICO. AND WE WERE SHOWING THEM THE ALIGNMENT IT SPURRED.

IT'S SPURRING SO MUCH INTEREST.

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PLEASE RISE FOR PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. LET US PRAY.

GOD OUR FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AND CALLED US TOGETHER THAT WE MAY HUMBLY SERVE YOU IN. THIS OUR WORK AND THOUGHTS OF HOLINESS THAT WE MAY BEGIN. AMEN.

AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. DO WE HAVE A

[B. Pledge of Allegiance]

THE MEETING WAS POSTED LAST FRIDAY AT 4:50 P.M..

[2. Certification of Public Notice]

[3. Disclosure of Conflict of Interest]

[4. Meeting Procedures]

WE ASK FOR EVERYONE'S COOPERATION AND FOLLOWING THESE PROCEDURES. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE EXCUSING OF THE ABSENCE OF COMMISSIONER MEMBER RUDY RAMIREZ FROM THE OCTOBER 10TH, 2022 REGULAR MEETING.

SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

RECONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2022 REGULAR MEETING.

MOVE TO APPROVE. HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

[5. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND.

EVERYBODY IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

[8. PUBLIC HEARINGS]

LOT ONE, PINE VALLEY SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 2104 NORTH SUGAR ROAD.

STAFF. GOOD EVENING, ALEX GONZALEZ, PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.

[A. Consider the Comprehensive Plan Amendment from Auto-Urban Uses to Multi-Family]

THE LOT IS PART OF THE PINE VALLEY SUBDIVISION THAT WAS RECORDED BACK IN JULY 20TH OF 1995. THE REQUESTED ZONING DESIGNATION IS A RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT. CURRENTLY, THERE IS A FOURPLEX ON THE PROPERTY.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE REZONING REQUEST BASED ON ADJACENT ZONING, DISTRICT, EXISTING USES, DENSITY, AND EXISTING LAND USE.

THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AS WELL.

GREAT. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. YOU WANT TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? HI.

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I HAVE LIKE A SURVEY OR SURVEY FOR THE 1995 AND SOME PICTURES.

WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? I'M SORRY. VICTOR. VICTOR FARIAS, THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANT TO DELIVER THESE PICTURES WHERE YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHERE IS WE HAVE THE PLAN TO BUILD ANOTHER UNITS.

SO JUST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

AND THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PERDIOS.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS? ITEM ADA. NO. I'LL GO AND CLOSE THE FLOOR COMMISSION.

I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

[B. Consider the Comprehensive Plan Amendment from Auto-Urban Uses to Urban University Uses]

ANY IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM EIGHT B, WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FROM OUR URBAN USES TO URBAN UNIVERSITY USES.

AND THE REZONING REQUEST FROM AGRICULTURE OPEN SPACE DISTRICT TO RESIDENTIAL, URBAN AND TOWNHOME DISTRICT BEING AN 8.36 ACRE TRACT OF LAND, MORE OR LESS OUT OF LOT FOUR, BLOCK ONE.

JOHN CLOSNER ET AL. SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 2020 EAST CANTON ROAD.

STAFF. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST KENTON ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 1600 FEET EAST OF SOUTH I-69.

THE REQUESTED ZONING DESIGNATION IS A RESIDENTIAL, URBAN AND TOWNHOME DISTRICT WHICH IS GOING TO ALLOW FOR TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT.

THE LOT IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED WITH RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, AND THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A ZONING CHANGE TO ESTABLISH A NEW TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURE AND OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS TYPICALLY RURAL IN CHARACTER. THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS FOR URBAN USES.

WE MAILED OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS AND WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS IN FAVOR OR AGAINST AT THE TIME THE REPORT WAS PREPARED.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FROM OTHER URBAN USES TO URBAN UNIVERSITY USES AND THE REZONING REQUEST FROM AGRICULTURE TO RESIDENTIAL, URBAN AND TOWNHOME BASED ON ADJACENT ZONING AND DENSITY.

IF APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WANT TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. IVAN GARCIA WITH RIO DELTA ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPERS.

MR. MICHAEL CANTU AND JACKSON STATE, WE ARE MAKING THIS REQUEST IN ORDER TO DO A TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT IN THE PROPERTY.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPERTIES ARE NOT VERY SYMMETRICAL, RIGHT? IT'S A WEIRD TRIANGULAR SHAPE THAT IT'S LIKE IT'S NOT BURDENED, BUT THERE'S A DRAIN DITCH ON THE WEST SIDE THAT KIND OF GIVES THAT CURVE TO THE TO THE PROPERTY. AND IT'S IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO, I GUESS, ACCOMMODATE A VERY GOOD LAYOUT.

I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S A.

COPY OF THE PROPOSED PLAT. NO, YOU JUST HAVE THE THE SURVEY.

OKAY. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE THE SHAPE IS VERY DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH.

AND WE LOOKED AT VARIOUS IDEAS AND LOT SIZES AND EVERYTHING.

AND REALLY, IN ORDER TO, I GUESS, FOR THIS PROJECT TO, TO BE FEASIBLE, ALL, WE WE COME UP WITH THE IDEA OF TOWNHOMES, AND EVERYTHING AROUND US IS PRETTY MUCH DEVELOPED, RIGHT? SO THIS IS BASICALLY ONE OF THE LAST PROPERTIES THAT IT'S THERE.

MY CLIENTS HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER A BRIEF, I GUESS PACKET WITH INFORMATION.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS HAVE IT. THEY'RE SHOWING A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON THE ON THE DEAL, AND I GUESS I'LL LEAVE IT TO THEM TO, I GUESS, GO OVER IT REAL QUICK.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MICHAEL CANTU.

I'M ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS, ALONG WITH JACKSON STITH ON THIS PROJECT.

I'D LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING THAT I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF EDINBURG MY ENTIRE LIFE.

I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL HERE, I WENT TO COLLEGE HERE, AND I ACTUALLY LIVED DOWN THE ROAD FROM THIS PROJECT ON CANTON, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE EXPRESSWAY.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS A TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, AN OPEN PROJECT.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS HAVE IT ARCHITECTURALLY CONTROLLED.

IT'S GOING TO BE PRIVATELY GATED. THERE'S GOING TO BE AN HOA IN PLACE AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK IN SOME AMENITIES, SOME GREEN SPACE, AMENITIES OF WALKING TRAILS AND SOME PARK POCKET PARKS ON THE SITE AS WELL.

WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH, OF COURSE, WITH IVAN AND SOME HIGHLY RENOWNED ARCHITECTS TO CREATE OUR FACADES FOR US.

I THINK JACKSON STIFF CAN SPEAK MORE ON THIS.

HI. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JACKSON STIFF.

SO WHEN WE PUT THE BRIEF TO THE ARCHITECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, THEY'RE OUT OF NEW YORK CITY. THEY'RE VERY WELL REGARDED.

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I STARTED MY CAREER WORKING WITH THEM, AND THEY ARE EXCELLENT DESIGNERS.

THE BRIEF IS TO THEM, LOOK, YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS THING LOOK TOO CONSISTENT BECAUSE THEN IT WILL FEEL PREFABRICATED.

IT WON'T BE A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.

RIGHT. BUT YOU ALSO CAN'T HAVE IT TOO VARIED BECAUSE THEN IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE DISNEYLAND. SO YOU HAVE TO STRIKE THE PERFECT BALANCE, AND THE PERFECT BALANCE IS TO HAVE ENOUGH DIFFERENT FACADES THAT HAVE DIFFERENT DEPTHS.

SOME ARE SETBACKS, SOME COME FORWARD A LITTLE BIT.

SO YOU HAVE THIS FEELING THAT IT'S A REAL PLACE AND NOT JUST PUTTING DOWN CINDER BLOCKS, RIGHT? SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO DELIVER A BEAUTIFUL PRODUCT TO THE RESIDENTS OF EDINBURGH.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A VERY YOUNG POPULATION. AND EDINBURGH, THE MEDIAN AGE, IS SAID TO BE 29. THEY ALSO MOST PEOPLE WILL GET MARRIED EARLY, HAVE CHILDREN. SO YOU HAVE YOUNG FAMILIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO FIND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT THEY CAN AFFORD.

AND PART OF THE WEALTH CREATION FOR YOUNG FAMILIES IS TO BUY A HOUSE, BUILD UP THEIR EQUITY, EXPAND.

THIS IS THE MONEY THAT THEY USE TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO COLLEGE WITH AND BUILD WEALTH FOR THEIR FAMILIES. SO WE'RE TRYING TO DELIVER TO THE MARKET THAT SORT OF PRODUCT WHERE A YOUNG FAMILY CAN GET IN EARLY AND START GOING UP THE PROPERTY LADDER.

THANK YOU SIR. I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE A LAYOUT OF WHAT THE TOWNHOME SUBDIVISION IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? I DON'T SEE ONE. THIS WAS LIKE THE ACTUAL PLAT.

OH, A PLAT MAP? YEAH. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY UNITS YOU'RE GOING TO GET IN THERE? HOW MANY UNITS? I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT 80 UNITS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

UNITS, YES I THINK. YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT 80.

YES, I THINK IT'S 80. RIGHT.

YEAH. UNITS. YEAH. WE'RE ALSO WE'RE ALSO STILL PLAYING WITH IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE WAY IT NARROWS DOWN. YEAH.

THAT'S THE LOTS START TO GET VERY STRANGE.

SO WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH REVISIONS ON THIS, BUT IT'S NOT SET IN STONE AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.

I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT THERE'S ALREADY A SUBDIVISION APPLICATION SUBMITTED AND IT'S UNDER REVIEW. WE HAD PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS WITH THE LAYOUT AND ALL THAT, AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES.

BASICALLY, THE LOTS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, IT'S MEETING THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS FROM THE CITY AND FOR MINIMUM LOT SIZES TO WIDTHS TO DEPTHS ACCESS, SECONDARY ACCESS AND EVERYTHING.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE LAYOUT IS, PROBABLY NOT ON THE PACKET, BUT IT'S IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED AND IT'S ON THE REVIEW.

AND I GUESS FOR A QUESTION FOR STAFF, THERE'S NOBODY.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY THE PUBLIC THERE WAS NO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NOTICES MAILED, BUT THERE WAS NO COMPLAINTS.

COMPOSITION? NO AT ALL.

THE REASON FOR THAT. AND WHAT'S THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL? SO THE REASON FOR DENIAL IS DUE TO THE ZONING MAP ON THE ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

WE DO HAVE RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY IN ALL DIRECTIONS.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING DENIAL FOR RESIDENTIAL URBAN AND TOWNHOMES. IT ALSO GOES AGAINST OUR UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OKAY OR FOR DENSITY? FOR DENSITY OR DENSITY OR.

SO THE RESIDENTIAL, URBAN AND TOWNHOME DISTRICT IS THE HIGHEST INTENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY IS OUR MORE COMMON ONE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

SO IF WE LOOK AT THE MAP, WHAT'S IN THE YELLOW IS WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY DISTRICT IS. BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY EXAMPLES OF TOWNHOMES IN THE AREA? BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A NEW IT'S A NEW ZONING, RIGHT? IT IS.

IT IS A NEW ZONING. SO IT'S DEFINITELY THAT COULD DEFINITELY BE ONE OF THE ONE AN OPTION THAT IS AVAILABLE. AND WE HAVE BEEN SEEING QUITE A BIT OF REZONINGS FOR RESIDENTIAL AND TOWNHOMES. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S COMING UP. BUT WITH WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY MAY BE MORE CONSISTENT TO THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

I GET IT, BUT BUT EVEN THOUGH IT HAS A STRANGE LAYOUT, THE ACTUAL LAND THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH. RIGHT. YEAH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO WE'RE NOT SURE HOW MANY UNITS WILL FIT YOUR YOU'RE YOU'RE REVIEWING THAT RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY 80 UNITS, BUT I THINK 80 PRELIMINARY.

WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY, BUT WE I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING HERE TONIGHT IS JUST THE REZONING, RIGHT? BUT IN LOOKING AT THE SHAPE OF THE LAND IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE CONDUCIVE FOR TOWNHOMES THAN IT IS FOR RESIDENTIAL, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE IT'S NOT A VERY BIG TRACT OF LAND. I GUESS I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND THE EIGHT ACRES, RIGHT? I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE REASON FOR THE FOR THE STAFF DENIAL.

WELL, IT WAS MORE BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY.

IT'S MORE BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIND ANY OTHER REZONINGS IN THE AREA NEXT TO TOWNHOMES, BECAUSE IT WAS JUST INTRODUCED IN, IN FEBRUARY, I BELIEVE. I MEAN, CORRECT.

IT'S A FAIRLY NEW ZONING.

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JUST TO YEAH. IF ON A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, WHERE WOULD YOU SUSPECT IF YOU IF YOU WERE CATEGORIZING THEM BY DENSITY.

WHERE WHERE WOULD THE TOWNHOMES FIT? WOULD THEY BE IN BETWEEN LIKE SAY SAY YOU ALREADY HAD FUTURE AND YOU HAD TOWNHOMES AND YOU WERE. WOULD YOU BE DENYING THIS IF IT WAS TOWNHOMES EVERYWHERE ELSE BUT SINGLE FAMILY HERE? THE WAY THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS SET UP, THE TOWNHOMES ARE GEARED TOWARDS MORE TOWARDS THE UNIVERSITY DISTRICT AREA.

OKAY. BUT THERE IS A NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOMES AND TOWNHOMES DOES PROVIDE THAT OPTION.

I AGREE AFFORDABILITY EVERYTHING IS MOVING TOWARDS THIS IS LESS DENSE THAN A FOURPLEX.

IT'S LESS DENSE THAN A FOURPLEX. CORRECT. EVERYTHING'S MOVING TOWARDS TOWNHOMES DUE TO THE ECONOMY AND THE HIGH INTEREST RATES AND SO FORTH.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING. AND SO IT'S THE THAT MEDIUM BETWEEN MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILIES. AND GIVEN THE, THE LOT IRREGULARITY AND I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY WOULD EVER MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IF COMMERCIAL OR SOMETHING.

IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO USE THAT LAND.

THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW COMMERCIAL EITHER BECAUSE IT'S. SO INSTEAD OF HAVING FARMLAND, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, YOU CAN HAVE ANIMALS.

I MEAN, I WOULD MOVE TOWARDS MOVING AWAY FROM FARMLAND BECAUSE IT ISN'T FARMLAND ANYMORE.

SO GIVEN THAT I'M MORE LEANING TOWARDS MOVING TOWARDS DOING TOWNHOMES, BUT YOU OPEN UP A CAN OF WORMS IN THE SENSE OF YOU ALLOW THIS ONE AND THEN SAY THE NEXT ONE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN.

SAME SCENARIO. DO YOU START? DO YOU START ALLOWING ALL THESE? THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO COME IN BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY. EVERYBODY, ALL DEVELOPERS WANT MORE DENSE BECAUSE IT'S. BUT BUT I THINK IF YOU YOU ACTUALLY WANT THAT DENSITY INSIDE CLOSER INTO THE CENTER OF THE CITY. RIGHT. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TOWN TOWNHOMES WAS THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE CALLING IT TOWNHOMES CLOSER TO.

WELL, HE HE SAID THAT IT WAS MORE IN ENTAILED FOR THE UNIVERSITY AREA.

SO THE THING IS I'M SAYING, RIGHT.

TOWNHOMES UNIVERSITY IN THE SENSE OF OUTER LIMITS, BUT STILL CITY LIMITS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? ARE THE TOWNHOMES GOING TO BE ALL DETACHED, ALL 80 UNITS, OR ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE ARE THEY GOING TO BE FOUR AND AND THEN A PARTITION AND CORRECT BY ORDINANCE WE HAVE THE MAXIMUM UNITS WE CAN DO ATTACH.

IT'S EIGHT RIGHT. AND EVERY IN BETWEEN EVERY EIGHT UNITS THERE'S GOING TO BE A 20 FOOT GAP. WE'RE TECHNICALLY YOU ONLY NEED TEN FEET.

WHAT WE'RE DOING 20 BECAUSE AS PART OF THE FEASIBILITY, WHEN WE MET WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY ALSO NEED ACCESS TOWARDS THE BACK.

SO THAT WAS INCREASED FROM 10 TO 20 ACTUALLY FOR THAT REASON.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT THOSE BREEZEWAYS, IF YOU WILL, IN BETWEEN THOSE BLOCKS OF BUILDINGS.

ONE THING TO MENTION ABOUT THE TOWNHOMES IS THAT IT'S STILL SINGLE FAMILY.

SO IT'S NOT MULTIFAMILY, RIGHT? SO THE DENSITY THAT WE GET, EVEN THOUGH THE LOTS ARE SMALLER, IT'S IT'S AGAIN, IT'S LOOKING MORE TO THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE OF THE PRODUCT.

RIGHT. MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. AND I GUESS STAFF WANTS TO SEE RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY IN THAT AREA. I GUESS IT'S, BUT IT KIND OF GOES BACK.

IF IT WAS A REGULAR TRACT OF LAND, IT WAS A REGULAR TRACT OF LAND.

IT'D BE MORE CONDUCIVE TO TO RESIDENTIAL, PRIMARY AND WITH THE COST OF LAND.

I GET IT, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TRY TO GET THE MOST LOTS FOR THEIR.

AND YOU'RE SUPER CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAY, TOO. I THINK GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE LAND AND THE IRREGULARITY, IT'S DIFFICULT TO PUT PRIMARY.

SO EVERY, EVERY PROJECT IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS THAT WE WOULD IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT BECAUSE WE APPROVE THIS ONE, THEY'RE GOING TO PROVE EVERYTHING GOING TO BE APPLES TO APPLES. IT'LL IT'LL BE DIFFERENT APPLES TO APPLES. SO I AGREE.

SO I GUESS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, EVERY ONE IS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

SO I AGREE. WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? WANT TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM.

NO ONE ELSE. I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE FLOOR. COMMISSIONER. MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND

[C. Consider the Comprehensive Plan Amendment from Neighborhood Commercial Uses to General]

SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM EIGHT C CONSIDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES AND THE REZONING REQUEST FROM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT. LOT ONE TRENTON TERRACE SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 4401 VETERANS BOULEVARD. STAFF.

SO FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, THE APPLICANT IS NOT PRESENT AT THIS TIME AND REQUESTED FOR IT TO BE TABLED AND HEARD AT THE DECEMBER MEETING INSTEAD.

OKAY. MAKE A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION.

SECOND. OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION HERE? WE HAD A SECOND. ANY IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED?

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[D. Consider the Comprehensive Plan Amendment from Auto-Urban Uses to Urban University Uses]

A 2.0 ACRE TRACT OF LAND BEING THE EAST TWO ACRES OF THE WEST 2.6 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF THE SOUTH ONE HALF OF LOT EIGHT SIX, SECTION 244 TEXAS MEXICAN RAILWAY COMPANY SURVEY LOCATED AT 501 EAST ROGERS ROAD.

STEPH. SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST ROGERS ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 1200 FEET EAST OF NORTH BUSINESS HIGHWAY 281.

THE PROPERTY HAS A TOTAL AREA OF TWO ACRES, AND THEY ARE REQUESTING THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL, URBAN AND TOWNHOME, WHICH IS GOING TO ALLOW FOR TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT.

ADJACENT ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN IN ALL DIRECTIONS.

ADJACENT LAND USES ARE LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES AND VACANT LAND.

THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS FOR URBAN USES.

A REZONING REQUEST FOR THIS PROPERTY WAS RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL.

AT THE AUGUST 13TH, 2024 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, STAFF MAILED A NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TO 39 NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS AT THE TIME THE REPORT WAS PREPARED. AFTER THE REPORT WAS PREPARED, WE DID RECEIVE APPROXIMATELY THREE NOTIFICATIONS AGAINST WHICH THEY ARE THERE.

NEXT YEAR PACKET STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST BASED ON ADJACENT ZONING DISTRICTS, LAND USE AND DENSITIES IN THE AREA.

THE PROPOSED USE IS ALSO NOT CONSISTENT WITH OUR UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

IF APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS DURING THE PERMITTING PROCESS. THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. WANT TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS MARK MORAN AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF TURQUESA CONSTRUCTION AND I'LL BE DISCUSSING TURQUESA HILLS.

LET ME JUST GET TO THE I KNOW YOU HAVE THE PACKET, BUT I DEFINITELY WANTED TO DISCUSS THE LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT, SO I MENTIONED IT'S A TWO ACRE TRACK.

AND OUR GOAL RIGHT NOW IS TO BRING IN 19 TOWNHOMES.

AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN THE RENDERING VERY ESTHETICALLY NICE AND THE THE AND THE INTRO.

AND ASIDE FROM THAT, THE EXTERIOR, WE'RE BRINGING IN A MODERN DESIGN ALONG WITH A INTERIOR MODERN DESIGN AS WELL.

JUMPING INTO THE WAY THIS SUBDIVISION IS GOING TO BE LAID OUT, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SURVEY AND YOU'LL SEE HOW THE 19 TOWNHOMES ARE GOING TO BE LAID OUT IN THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

BEST USE ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

WE FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF EITHER A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, WHICH I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

BUT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, AFTER DOING SOME RESEARCH, I DID FIND OUT THAT THE PROPERTY WAS FOR SALE FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS AND IT DIDN'T SELL.

SO THAT KIND OF TELLS US THAT MAYBE THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY MAY NOT BE IDEAL FOR THAT USE. AND IT WAS ON THE MARKET FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS, AND IT NEVER SOLD FOR A SINGLE RESIDENCE FOR OUR BEST USE.

IN OUR OPINION, THIS CAN BE TOWNHOMES UNDER OUR PARTICULAR PROPERTY OR PROJECT IS GOING TO BE LOCATED NEAR APARTMENTS.

OF COURSE CAN BE WE HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL.

WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL USE AND NOT INDUSTRIAL USE.

I'M SORRY. WE ALSO HAVE INSTITUTIONAL USE AND A SUBDIVISION THAT'S UP AND COMING.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HIGHLIGHTS ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION. IT OUR PROPERTY COST TWO, 255. SOFT AND HARD COST 800,000.

SO WE'RE COMING IN ABOUT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OVER $1 MILLION ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

AND THE TAX IMPACT IS ABOUT VALUATION, I SHOULD SAY IT'S ABOUT 5.7.

ASIDE FROM THAT, THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, I SHOULD SAY, IS WITHIN ABOUT 4 TO 5 DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS.

AND ROGERS ROAD, WE FEEL IT'S A STRONG CONNECTOR TO THE EXPRESSWAY IF APPROVED, OF COURSE WE WOULD COMMUNICATE, SIT DOWN WITH ALL THE PROPERTY DEPARTMENTS AND COMPLY WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE COST.

YOU'RE SAYING THE 300,000, MEANING THAT'S WHAT.

THAT'S WHAT? THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE HOUSE.

THAT'S HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO SELL THE HOUSES FOR? NO.

ABOUT 300,000 IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SELLING THE HOUSE FOR. THE HOMES FOR AFFORDABLE JUST LIKE PRIOR AFFORDABLE HOMES IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

THAT'S THE SALES PRICE.

SALES PRICE? NOT THE COST.

NOT THE COST. ABOUT 300,000.

SALES PRICE, NOT LESS.

BUT. THAT'S THE COST OF A HOME, RIGHT? WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 25,300 IS THE IDEAL.

THAT'S WHAT SOMEBODY WOULD BE PAYING FOR A HOME, A RESIDENTIAL.

YEAH. AND I WANT TO ASK STAFF.

THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL IS THE SAME THING. LIKE THE LAST ONE, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S ALONG THE BASIS OF THE SAME AS AS THE PREVIOUS ITEM,

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AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE BECAUSE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE PAST HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT THEIR VALUES GOING DOWN.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE VALUE IS IS HIGH ON THESE TOWNHOMES? THEY'RE NOT LOW COST AFFORDABLE.

THEY'RE AFFORDABLE, BUT NOT THAT AFFORDABLE.

IT COULD BE LIKE IN BETWEEN, I THINK RIGHT NOW AT ABOUT 15 OR 1600 SQUARE FEET, IS COMING IN AT ABOUT GIVE OR TAKE ABOUT MAYBE 285 TO ABOUT $300,000.

THAT WAS A CONCERN OF THE RESIDENTS THERE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DEPRECIATE THEIR SALES PRICE AND AND VALUE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

YOU KNOW, UNTIL YOU SELL IT, THAT'S WHAT IT'S WORTH UNTIL SOMEBODY IS WILLING TO PAY VALUE. COULD IT GO UP IN VALUE OR SHOULD I SAY, CAN YOU SELL IT A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE? OF COURSE, IT'S ALL GOING TO JUST DEPEND ALSO ON THE OF COURSE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

SO IF YOU SELL IT FOR 300 THAT'S THE VALUE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT RIGHT.

AND IT MIGHT EVEN INCREASE THE VALUE OF EVERYBODY'S PROPERTIES THERE.

BUT I WILL POINT OUT THAT AGAIN, BASED ON THE RESEARCH, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY WAS FOR SALE FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS ON THE MULTIPLE LISTING SERVICE. SO DIFFERENT PLATFORMS IT WAS BEING PROMOTED, ADVERTISED, NEVER SOLD. FIVE YEARS LATER, OF COURSE WE CAME ON.

WE PURCHASED IT, I GUESS YOU CAN SAY.

SO I THINK IDEALLY FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THE DIMENSIONS OF BEING 132 TO 1 AND SIX 60 IN DEPTH, I THINK YES, RESIDENTIAL COULD BE IDEAL.

FIVE YEARS ON THE MARKET NEVER SOLD.

AGAIN. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE COME IN. WE FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE MORE OF AN IDEAL, BEST USE TO DO TOWNHOMES. THESE TOWNHOMES ARE SEPARATED, RIGHT? OR JOINED TOGETHER.

NO. THEY'RE GOING TO BE SEPARATED WITH A FIVE FOOT SIDE SETBACKS.

YEAH. WELL, THEY'RE VERY NICE. EACH INDIVIDUAL.

EACH INDIVIDUAL. THAT IS CORRECT.

NONE OF THEM ARE CONNECTED. NO, NO, NONE OF THEM ARE CONNECTED TOGETHER.

LIKE. LIKE THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. IT'S GOING TO BE FIVE FEET ON EACH ONE.

BUT THEY'RE MORE LIKE PATIO HOMES THAN YOU COULD CONSIDER IT DETACHED.

THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOME.

OF COURSE THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ZONING. BUT YOU CAN KIND OF FOLLOW IN THAT DIRECTION. YES SIR. THEY'RE NOT ATTACHED. THIS PROPERTY IS VERY NEAR TO THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION.

RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY. THAT'S TO THE TO THE WEST.

RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING HERE TO THE WEST.

CLOSER TO BUSINESS 21.

AS YOU APPROACH BUSINESS 21, IT SHOWS HERE THAT WE HAVE A RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY, RIGHT? YES. SO IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE CANAL.

SO YOU'RE INCLUDING ALL THE THE INDIVIDUAL SINGLE RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

THIS IS GOING TO BE IN THE FURTHEST POINT.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY'S FURTHEST POINT.

THEN YOU HAVE THE CANAL.

THEN YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL SEPARATES THE THE THE RESIDENTIAL, THE SUBDIVISION THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS OR SO.

YEAH. BECAUSE I THINK PREVIOUSLY WE HAD ONE THAT WAS VERY NEAR TOWARDS THE SCHOOL RIGHT CLOSER. YEAH, THAT WAS A BIG ISSUE.

I THINK THAT ONE DID GET APPROVED AS WELL. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT IS CORRECT. I'M GOING TO ASK FOR ANY VARIANCES FOR THE ROGERS ROAD, FOR THE WIDENING OR THE SIDEWALKS OR ANY OF THAT, BECAUSE NONE, NONE AT THIS TIME THAT WE CAN FORESEE.

NO, NOT IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY.

WE HAVEN'T AT THIS TIME.

WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY VARIANCES, SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD NEED TO DO IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT IS CONGESTED, BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL.

AND IT THERE HAS BEEN FLOODING THERE.

SO THERE HAS TO BE IMPROVEMENTS GIVEN ESPECIALLY THE, THE, THE VALUE AND AND THE, THE PEOPLE, THE TAXPAYERS ARE GOING TO BE THERE. I THINK THAT SHOULD THAT SHOULD PROMOTE THE CITY TO, TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. BUT THAT'S TO BE ON OUR SCOPE.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT. OKAY.

WAS THERE ANY OPPOSITION FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT THERE? I DID RECEIVE A PETITION, BUT IT HAD SIGNATURES FROM A PRIOR REZONING REQUEST THAT WAS THAT WAS SEEN IN 2023.

SO BUT I BELIEVE THE LADY THAT SUBMITTED THE PETITION IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. YEAH, WE'LL GET TO THEM. I DON'T KNOW, MR. MORAN'S FINISHED. NO, NO, JUST IN CLOSING.

AGAIN, FOR ME, IT'S A IT'S A RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

YOU HAVE STRONG CONNECTOR BEING ROGERS ROAD.

AGAIN, WE WE SIT AMONGST APARTMENTS, COMMERCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL USES.

SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ONE SPECIFIC USE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMEWHAT IDEAL, AT LEAST IN OUR OPINION IF APPROVED, OF COURSE. OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, EVEN AFTER SOMEBODY COMES UP, I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO ADDRESS ANY ISSUES THAT THEY MAY HAVE OR ANY QUESTIONS THAT, OF COURSE, THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE. THANK YOU, MR. MORAN. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS DEIDRE LOPEZ.

I LIVE AT 615 EAST ROGERS ROAD.

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I LIKE TO THANK THE DEPARTMENT OF ZONING FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AGAIN.

LAST AUGUST, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, I PRESENTED A PETITION FROM 42 OF THE AREA RESIDENTS. IT WAS A NOTARIZED PETITION SAYING THAT WE OPPOSED BECAUSE WE ALL LIVE IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. WE ARE NOW FACED WITH A PLAN FOR TOWNHOMES IN THE SAME AREA. WE CONTINUE TO OPPOSE ROGERS ROAD IS HIGHLY TRAFFICKED BY DRIVERS GOING TO IDEA THE ACADEMY AND EDINBURG NORTH HIGH SCHOOL.

AND THE NEW APARTMENTS, OR THE TOWNHOMES THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED WILL ADD MORE TRAFFIC.

PEOPLE DRIVE AT EXCESSIVE, EXCESSIVE SPEEDS ON ROGERS ROAD, ESPECIALLY STUDENTS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL.

BECAUSE IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE EXPRESSWAY, SO EVERYONE USES ROGERS ROAD TO GET ONTO THE EXPRESSWAY. I'VE HAD MY MAILBOX AND FENCING DAMAGED BY CARELESS DRIVERS.

THERE IS ALREADY WAY TOO MUCH TRAFFIC.

MORE HOUSING MEANS MORE DRIVERS.

THERE IS NO OBJECTION TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AT 501 EAST ROGERS ROAD UNFORTUNATELY, THE TOWNHOMES DO NOT FIT THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE HOMES THAT ARE IN THIS AREA. IT WOULD MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A HODGEPODGE OF ARCHITECTURE.

ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL IS ON THE THE SOUTH SIDE.

THE IDEA SCHOOL, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, AND THERE'S A COMMERCIAL AREA AS WELL AS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

ALL OF THE REST OF US ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE.

AND FINALLY, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS FOR STUDENTS NEEDING TO WALK TO SCHOOL.

THEY MUST WALK IN THE STREET, WHICH OF COURSE IS VERY DANGEROUS.

AND I'D LIKE THE CITY TO CONSIDER THIS AND FIND A WAY TO REMEDY THAT SITUATION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

I'VE GOT ONE. GOT ONE? YES, I'VE GOT ONE. QUESTION FOR YOU. ON THIS MAP IN FRONT OF HIM, IF WE COULD PULL IT UP. OR THERE'S A WAY TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE IS YOUR HOUSE ON THE AERIAL IMAGE. TO GET A BETTER IDEA OF.

RIGHT THERE. OKAY. TWO.

TWO. TWO. TWO. THIS IS THE POSE.

THIS IS MY NEIGHBOR, AND I'M RIGHT THERE.

RIGHT? YES. OKAY. AND THESE ARE ALL RESIDENTS WITH AT LEAST TWO ACRES AND ALL.

EVERYTHING ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET.

THE SOUTH SIDE ARE COMMERCIAL.

EVERYTHING ON THIS SIDE IS RESIDENTIAL.

YOUR PROPERTIES, THE. I GUESS TRACK NUMBER SEVEN.

THEY ALL SAY EIGHT, I GUESS 7 OR 8.

TWO PROPERTIES DOWN IS IS THAT A ONE ACRE TRACT OR A TWO ACRE TRACT? TWO ACRES. YOURS IS TWO ACRES.

YES. OKAY. AND NEXT DOOR IS TWO ACRES.

THE ONE AFTER THAT IS TWO ACRES.

THE ONE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THAT LOOKS BIGGER. YEAH.

THAT'S THREE ACRES. THREE ACRES.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MRS. LOPEZ? THANK YOU. MA'AM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JUAN DE LEON, AND I LIVE IN THE TRACT JUST EAST OF MISS LOPEZ'S TRACK. AND LET ME CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP, EVERYTHING EAST OF THE CANAL IS.

EVERYONE HAS A COUPLE OF ACRES ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THE.

THE ACADEMY, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, THE DOG PARK, ALL THAT USED TO BE FIELD AND WAS DEVELOPED.

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BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CANAL, ON THE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CANAL, ON THE SOUTH SIDE, SIMILAR TOWNHOMES HAVE JUST BEEN BUILT.

AND WITHIN THE PAST SIX MONTHS AND WE'VE ALREADY NOTICED THE TRAFFIC.

SOMETIMES WE GOT TO SIT THERE FOR 2 OR 3 MINUTES JUST TO GET OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY.

THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO CLARIFY IS I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH RESEARCH WAS PUT INTO THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN PRIOR, BUT THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN FOR SALE FOR OVER 20 YEARS. MIGHT BE WITH A DIFFERENT REALTOR, BUT THAT SIGN HAS NEVER MOVED.

IT JUST CHANGED WHEN ONE REALTOR TO ANOTHER THAT THAT PROPERTY HAS NEVER BEEN CLEARED.

I'LL BE ONE OF THE ONES THAT WILL CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT.

I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE THIS MORNING WITH MR. FERNANDEZ. THE OWNER IS GOING TO BE TAKEN TO COURT BY THE CITY OF EDINBURGH BECAUSE THE CONTRACTORS THAT EDINBURGH SENDS OUT, THEY'RE LIKE, WE CAN'T CUT THE GRASS, THE TREES ARE TOO THICK.

IT'S NOT MAINTAINED. WE STILL HAVE COYOTES, WE STILL HAVE POSSUMS, WE STILL HAVE SNAKES. IF YOU GO INTO THAT PROPERTY EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, YOU'LL SEE PROBABLY TEENAGERS HANGING AROUND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, PULLING BETWEEN THE TREES, DUMP TIRES.

IF YOU STICK TOWNHOMES IN THERE, WE'LL HAVE MORE TRAFFIC.

AND THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO CANALS.

THE CITY HAS MADE A DEEPER, WIDER CANAL BETWEEN THE CANAL ON THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE SUBDIVISION.

THERE'S THAT SPACE THAT YOU CAN SEE RIGHT IN BETWEEN.

THAT IS A BIGGER CANAL.

ALSO A SAFETY ISSUE, BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THOSE STEEP ONES THAT ONCE YOU START ROLLING DOWN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET OUT AGAIN.

MY MAIN OBJECTION IS EVERYONE HAS A COUPLE OF ACRES.

THAT PROPERTY OWNER HAS NEVER SHOWED HIS FACE.

HE HAS NEVER CLEARED THE LAND. HE HAS NEVER CUT THE GRASS.

20 YEARS AGO, IF YOU HAVE PHOTOS FROM 20 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS MINIMAL TREES ON THAT PROPERTY.

THE TREES ARE THERE BECAUSE THEY NEVER MAINTAINED THE PROPERTY. I JUST WANTED TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW, TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN NEIGHBORLY AND MAINTAINING THEIR PROPERTY AND ABIDING BY THE CITY CODE TO CUT THEIR GRASS AND MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND I'M NOT, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE GENTLEMAN WAS AWARE OF THAT ALSO.

HAS IT BEEN THE SAME OWNER FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS? IT HASN'T CHANGED OWNERS. THEY JUST CHANGED THE SIGNS. OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ARE YOU GUYS CURRENTLY BUYING THE PROPERTY? THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS. NO, SIR. THE PROPERTY HAS JUST RECENTLY BEEN PURCHASED JUST MAYBE ALMOST TWO MONTHS AGO OR SO.

YEAH. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS FOR SALE FOR 20 YEARS.

MY RESEARCH TOLD ME FIVE, BUT I GUESS IT'S BEEN A FIRST FOR DEVELOPING IT INTO SOMETHING, WHETHER RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY.

SO TO HIS POINT, I THINK THE IDEA IS LET'S GET RID OF THE OPOSSUMS AND THE COYOTES AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO KIND OF THAT GENTLEMAN MENTIONED.

THAT'S KIND OF THE IDEA AS WELL. IS THERE GOING TO BE OBVIOUSLY A PRIVACY FENCE BETWEEN THE EAST SIDE, BETWEEN THE EXISTING RESIDENTS.

TO TO THESE. TO THIS SUBDIVISION.

NO. ABSOLUTELY. YES. A NICE PRIVACY FENCE.

YES. WE WOULD ACTUALLY WANT THAT OURSELVES JUST TO.

AND THE IDEA BEHIND IT IS OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO COMPLEMENT THE PRODUCT ITSELF, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE MODERN DESIGN THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE FRONT ELEVATION AND OF COURSE, THE ENTRANCE. OH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE TRAFFIC, 19 TOWNHOMES, RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

YES, I UNDERSTAND THERE WOULD BE AN IMPACT, BUT I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN FACED WITH TRAFFIC. THAT'S A GOOD THING, RIGHT? SO RIGHT NOW THE CITY OF EDINBURGH CONTINUES TO GROW. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO STOP.

SO I DON'T THINK 19 RESIDENTIAL HOMES IS GOING TO MAKE MUCH OF AN IMPACT, IN MY OPINION, TO THAT ROAD.

THE CITY IS MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION AND IS POPULATING.

THAT USED TO BE A LOT OF NICE RANCHES, AND NOW THEY'RE BECOMING SCHOOLS AND AND SUBDIVISIONS. BUT IT'S NO LONGER RANCHES OUT THERE.

I THINK, MARK, THAT THAT I'M SORRY, THAT 19 DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT IN IN PERSPECTIVE TO SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND.

BUT I THINK TO THE NEIGHBORS, IT PROBABLY DOES BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY BEING AFFECTED BY BY ANOTHER COMPLEX THAT'S CLOSE BY.

AND SO IN, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, IT IT STILL WOULD BE A PROBLEM AND CONTINUE

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AND, AND IN THE PAST, OTHERS HAVE COME AND WE'VE DECLINED THEM THERE FOR THOSE SAME REASONS.

IT'S TOO NARROW A ROAD, TOO MUCH TRAFFIC.

PEOPLE LINE UP THERE TO TO PICK UP THE KIDS WHEN THEY GO AROUND THE CORNER TO, TO THE IDEA SCHOOL. AND THERE'S A LINEUP OF CARS AND, AND IT TURNS THAT TURNS INTO A TRAFFIC PROBLEM.

SO IT'S ALWAYS IN THE MORNING. IT'S ALWAYS IN THE AFTERNOON. RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE THING THAT THAT I THINK THEY DIDN'T MENTION, BUT WE'VE HEARD IT ALREADY HERE BEFORE ON THAT SAME STREET. IT'S IT'S A TOUGH ONE.

IT JUST IT JUST IS. NO, NO, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.

I THINK WE'LL DEFINITELY SEE THAT AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT I WORK ON THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THOSE ARE DEFINITELY SOME CHALLENGES.

AND, AND WE DID DEFINITELY HEAR THEM AND FACE THAT OFTEN WHEN IT COMES TO RESIDENTS.

SO I WOULD DEFINITELY FEEL THE SAME WAY, BUT I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.

THANKS, MARK. THANK YOU.

I COULD JUST POINT OUT THERE ON THE THE PLANS THAT ARE UP THERE ROGERS ROAD IS TWO WAY ROAD WITH NO SHOULDER, AND THESE APARTMENTS HAVE RECENTLY GONE UP AND BUSINESSES AND THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS BEING DEVELOPED WITH MORE APARTMENTS.

AS IS THIS AREA. YEAH.

I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT. LIKE ROGERS NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED.

THAT'S THAT'S A CITY, A CITY PROJECT.

WE HAVE INCREASED TRAFFIC ALONG HERE.

AND YOU ARE CORRECT. THE THE TRAFFIC INTO THE SCHOOL HAS TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONTAGE IN THE MORNING AND IN THE EVENING, AND THE LINE GETS PRETTY LONG AND BACKS UP.

AND THEN YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE WAYWARD PARENTS THAT LIKE TO PARK HERE AND HERE AND TRY TO SHOVE THEIR CAR IN THERE AND THERE, SO, SO THEY CAN CHEAT THE LINE.

SO DEFINITELY TRAFFIC IS A PROBLEM.

THANK YOU MISTER. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM EIGHT D.

OKAY I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE FLOOR COMMISSION.

BECAUSE OF. THERE'S ALREADY RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY THERE AND DEVELOPING.

IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET RID OF THE POSSUMS AND THE ISSUES IN SOMETHING, RIGHT? AND AND THE ONLY WAY TO INCREASE THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THEY JUST BOUGHT IT TWO MONTHS AGO. SO THE ONLY WAY TO INCREASE THE RIGHT OF WAY IS USUALLY WHEN DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS. THAT'S WHEN THEY INCREASE THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THAT'S RIGHT. SO UNLESS THE CITY BUYS IT, WHICH USUALLY THEY DON'T.

BUT YEAH, GIVEN GIVEN THE TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING, I THINK, I THINK THE CITY SHOULD BE A SLOW PROCESS AS THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AREN'T GOING TO WANT TO SELL BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER PROPERTIES ARE NOT GOING TO. I'M SURE THE CITY IS ALREADY LOOKING AT THAT.

I'M NOT AWARE OF IT, BUT I'M SURE THAT THEY THEY SHOULD CONSIDER THE EXPANDING THAT ROAD.

DO WE KNOW WHAT THE MPO CALLS FOR ON ON ROGERS? IS THAT 80 FOOT? IT'S PROBABLY AN 80 FOOT DEDICATION THAT'S NEEDED.

YES, SURE. AND WHAT IS IT NOW? IT'S IT'S NOT THAT IT'S TOO LATE THAT WIDE.

IT'S JUST TWO LANES. 40.

SO I DON'T EVEN THINK IT'S THAT WAY.

OH, I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY LIKE 24, 25FT.

FEET. IT'S A FARM ROAD, RIGHT? YEAH. IT'S A IT'S A TWO LANE, I KNOW.

BUT DO WE KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS RIGHT NOW? YEAH. SO UNTIL IT ALL GETS DEVELOPED, IT WON'T.

RIGHT. BUT ALL THE ALL THE EAST NEIGHBORS DON'T WANT TO DEVELOP.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO GET WIDENED UNLESS THEY TAKE IT EVENTUALLY.

YEAH, EVENTUALLY. BUT GIVEN THE TRAFFIC GOING TO THE SCHOOL BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT, IT'S QUITE A BIT. YEAH.

THEY DO NEED TO EXPAND AND PUT A SHOULDER THERE.

IT'S ALREADY A NEED, SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.

BUT IN MY OPINION I THINK THAT GIVEN THE WE'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING A MULTIFAMILY. IT'S PRETTY MUCH A SINGLE FAMILY AFFORDABLE HOME.

AND WE ALREADY HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THERE, EXCEPT IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CANAL. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.

GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THREE. THREE.

FOUR. THREE. FOUR. THREE. FOUR.

[9. SUBDIVISION VARIANCES]

WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO THE CITY UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION 5.203-1 RIGHT OF WAY WITH ARTICLE FIVE.

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SECTION 3.102-1 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOT AND BUILDING STANDARDS FOR THE VILLAS AT LA SIENNA. BEING A 4.906 ACRES TRACT OF LAND OUT OF LOT ONE LA SIENNA DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 1891 BURNS BOULEVARD. STAFF.

GOOD AFTERNOON. BOARD MARLON GARZA WITH PLANNING AND ZONING.

SO FOR THIS FIRST ONE, THERE IS THREE DIFFERENT VARIANCES THAT ARE BEING APPLIED FOR. I WENT UP TO YOU.

[A. Consider Variance Requests to the City's Unified Development Code, Article 5 Section 5.203-1]

YES. OKAY. CAN WE TAKE THEM ALL AS ONE OR.

WE HAVE TO BE INDIVIDUAL.

I THINK WE CAN GO ALL THREE TOGETHER, BUT THEN VOTE ON THEM.

YEAH. WELL, FIRST, YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT YOU MOVE TO DELIBERATE. YOU CAN DELIBERATE ON ALL THREE AT THE SAME TIME.

SO. AND THEN WE VOTE INDIVIDUALLY.

YES. OKAY. BUT STILL VOTE.

I WOULD YES, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU DELIBERATE AT ALL ON ALL THREE, BUT VOTE INDIVIDUALLY.

THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO JUST SOME OF THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

IT IS A LONG BURNS BOULEVARD, APPROXIMATELY 1600 FEET EAST OF LA SIENNA PARKWAY. IT'S PART OF LA SIENNA DEVELOPMENT.

IT IS INSIDE CITY LIMITS.

4.906 ACRES, TRACT OF LAND.

IT IS CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

IT IS ACTUALLY BEING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR TONIGHT AS WELL.

IT IS 39 LOTS. THE FIRST VARIANCE SECTION 5.203-1 IS APPLIES TO THE RIGHT OF WAY.

DEDICATION. THE UDC CALLS FOR 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

THEY'RE PROPOSING A 36 FOOT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, 32FT BACK TO BACK FOR THE PAVING.

THE SECOND VARIANCE AS FAR AS IT GOES FOR THE SIDEWALK.

SECTION 5.209. THEY'RE PROPOSING ON THE NORTHERN LOTS TO DO THE SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE LOTS. NOT NOT ALONG THE ADJACENT TO THE STREET WHICH IS WHAT UDC CALLS OUT FOR SO THEY HAD A DIFFERENT PLAN.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME OF THE EXHIBITS IN A SECOND.

FOR THE VARIANCE REQUEST, SECTION 3.102-1 AS IT APPLIES TO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOT AND BUILDING STANDARDS THEY'RE PROPOSING LOT WIDTHS BETWEEN 34FT AND 111FT, AN AVERAGE LOT OF AREAS OF ABOUT 4057FT².

THE AVERAGE LOT WIDTH IS ABOUT 41.4FT.

SO THIS IS CURRENTLY ZONED RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY.

THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT FOR LOT WIDTHS IS 50FT AND FOR LOT AREAS OF 5000FT².

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND LEAVE IT UP TO YOU ALL IF YOU ALL TO DELIBERATE ON THIS ITEM.

IS THERE A PLAN? WE CAN SEE A LAYOUT.

I DO HAVE IT UP ON THE EXHIBIT.

I BELIEVE IN THE ORIGINAL REPORTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO YOU.

ALL THERE IS THE SOME OF THE EXHIBITS ON THERE AS WELL.

AND THIS IS THE SAME ANOTHER PHASE OF LA SIENNA THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED.

THE SAME CARACOL LOOKING FUNCTION.

YEAH. IT'S JUST A CONTINUATION OF CONTINUATION.

YES. THESE ARE TOWNHOMES.

THESE ARE NOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THEY ARE. TOWNHOMES ARE CONSIDERED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIALS.

REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'RE ATTACHED OR DETACHED, THEY'RE STILL CONSIDERED SINGLE FAMILY TECHNICALLY UNDER THE ZONING FOR IT IS ACTUALLY RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY, BUT THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE VARIANCE TO REDUCE TO WHAT WOULD BE MORE, MORE OR LESS IN LINE WITH KIND OF LIKE TOWNHOMES, SINGLE FAMILY PRIMARY, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A TOWNHOME.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. YES.

THESE ARE TOWNHOMES SITTING ON A RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. AND WHY NOT CHANGE IT TO TOWNHOMES? THE ENGINEER OF RECORDS IS HERE.

THE ENGINEER. MELVIN HUNT, CAN YOU COME UP AND SPEAK ON THAT? YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, MARIO REYNA WITH MELVIN HUNT. FOR THE RECORD I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING BURNS DEVELOPMENT.

KEN BURNS. HE'S ACTUALLY DOING A DEAL TO SELL THIS LAND TO ESPERANZA ROADS DEVELOPMENT.

I GOT A PRETTY PICTURE. I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU THAT I'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, BUT THIS IS KIND OF THE CONTINUATION. THIS IS THE LAST PHASE THAT WE DID.

THIS IS CALLED WATER LILIES JUST WEST OF THERE.

YEAH. EVERYTHING'S ORDERLY.

IT'S THE ONE THAT WE APPROVED. YES, SIR. THIS WAS.

WHERE'S THIS LOT ON THAT MAP? YOU CAN'T SEE IT BECAUSE THIS IS CENTERED ON THE LAST PHASE THAT WE DID.

THIS IS FURTHER WEST. EAST? I'M SORRY. YEAH. WE'RE LOOKING TOWARD THE HIGHWAY. YES, SIR. WE'RE LOOKING WEST.

CORRECT. SO IT'S COMMERCIAL HERE, BUT THIS IS KIND OF THE FINISHED PRODUCT OF SOME OF THESE. THE FREEDOM BANK RIGHT THERE. EXCUSE ME? THE FREEDOM BANK? YES, SIR.

FREEDOM BANK IS RIGHT HERE.

THE HIGHWAY THIS IS FACING WEST.

[01:00:01]

IT'S PRETTY BIG. MASSIVE.

NICE. YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE PICTURE, BUT IT'S SHOWING A POND HERE.

MARIO. IT'S THAT. IS THAT THE POND THAT IT'S SHOWING HERE IS CONNECTED TO THE POND HERE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU.

OKAY. WE'RE THIS WAY. YOU CAN'T SEE IT HERE.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING. THERE IT IS.

UPON THAT IT SHOWS IS THE ONE THAT'S RIGHT AROUND HERE.

IT'S THE WHAT THEY USE FOR A DETENTION AREA.

YES. I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU KIND OF THE LAST PHASE THAT WE DID, AND HOW ORDERLY AND NICE IT LOOKS.

EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY, WE ASK FOR HERE. I KNOW THINGS ARE DONE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, SO WE'RE WE'RE NOT USING THAT AS AN EXCUSE.

AND THEN LOTS THAT WERE DONE PREVIOUSLY.

DO THEY HAVE THIS VARIANCE THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR AS FAR AS THE LOT SIZE? YES, SIR. THEY GOT THE SAME THREE.

I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU WHAT THIS IS. THIS THIS WILL BE A THIS IS ON FREDDIE AND 10TH STREET.

THIS IS THE REPLACEMENT PRODUCT FOR THIS.

SO IF YOU SEE HERE, EVERYTHING IS DETACHED.

NOTHING IS ATTACHED. THE HOMES ARE BETWEEN 1800 SQUARE FEET LIVING AND 2800FT² LIVING.

IS THAT THE BICENTENNIAL? FREDDIE? ON THE CORNER? YES, SIR. THE REAL SMALL KIND OF NARROW LOOKING ONES. CORRECT.

SO THAT'S ON FREDDIE GONZALEZ, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

SO THIS IS A THE EXACT SAME FLOOR PLANS HERE WILL BE FOR THIS LOT.

YEAH. SO THIS CAME OUT REAL NICE.

THIS IS ORDERLY. WE DID IT IN THREE PHASES, 186 LOTS.

SO THE EXACT SAME FLOOR PLANS YOU CAN PICK HERE. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PICK ON THESE LOTS.

KIND OF THE THEME OF THE NIGHT HAS BEEN TOWNHOMES AND NEEDING SMALLER LOTS AND TO GET HIGHER DENSITY. BUT STILL, THESE LOTS WILL AVERAGE 1800 TO 2800FT² LIVING. I THINK THE AVERAGE PRICE IS ABOUT 330,000.

SO IT'LL BE ABOUT A $12 MILLION PROJECT.

IS THERE LIKE AN HOA OR SOMETHING THAT KEEPS THE CARS OFF THE ROAD? YES, SIR. EVERYTHING IS FIRE STRIPED AND AND THERE IS NO CARS.

WE TOOK THIS TODAY. AND ACTUALLY THERE'S NO CARS ON THE ROAD, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. THEY HAVE A PARKING GARAGE AND A DRIVEWAY.

WELL, YOU CAN'T PARK ON EVERY EVERY CAR HAS PARKING ON THE STREET.

SO THESE, THESE THESE LOTS ALLOW FOR A A DRIVEWAY AND A GARAGE.

EVERY HOUSE HERE HAS A TWO CAR GARAGE AND A DRIVEWAY.

IT'S A HOUSE, BUT IT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT STILL GOES THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.

WHENEVER THEY'RE LOOKING TO BUILD THE HOMES BY BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO OFF STREET PARKING.

SO WHETHER THAT BE INSIDE GARAGE AND DRIVEWAY, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT. AND THE REASON FOR STAFF'S DENIAL IS IT MORE OF AN ENGINEERING THING OR IS IT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WAS CONCERNED WITH SOME CONFLICTS POTENTIALLY.

THEY ARE PROPOSING UTILITY EASEMENTS.

THEY ENGINEER RECORD. THEY SPEAK WITH CITY ENGINEER EARLIER TODAY AS WELL.

SO THIS IS STILL GOING THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION REVIEW PROCESS AS WELL. AFTER THIS IT SEEMS LIKE THEY MIGHT HAVE COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING.

THAT'S IN REGARDS TO THE 50 FOOT SIZE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE 36.

YOU SAID 36, WHICH ONLY ALLOWS YOU TWO FEET AND TWO FEET ON EACH SIDE FOR UTILITIES.

32 BACK TO BACK. CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO WE ARE MEETING THE CITY REQUIREMENT AND FIRE CODE FOR A 32 FOOT STREET. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE PUTTING THE PRIVATE STREET IN THE 38 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, AND ADJACENT TO IT WE DO A 15 FOOT UTILITY SIDEWALK EASEMENT.

SO YOU'RE SEPARATING THE UTILITY EASEMENT SOMEWHERE ELSE? YES, SIR. EXACTLY LIKE WE DID THIS LAST PHASE. WE HAVE 15FT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. FIRE! OKAY WITH THIS? YEAH. THIS IS A FOREST FIRE.

FIRE MARSHAL. FIRE CHIEF.

CHIEF. CHIEF, IF. YOU LOOK BEHIND YOU.

I'M JUST HERE FOR THE POPCORN. EASY, EASY ON THE CHIEF.

GOOD AFTERNOON, OMAR EDINBURG FIRE CHIEF.

YES, SIR. WE'VE GONE OVER THE PLAN ALREADY. WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, AND WE'RE. WE'RE OKAY WITH THE LAYOUT. SO THERE WILL BE SOME INNER FIRE LANES THAT WILL BE IN THE SUBDIVISION AROUND THOSE MEDIUMS TO.

I SEE THEY HAVE THAT MEDIUM IN THE MIDDLE.

YOU CAN USE THAT. SO WE'LL FIRE LANE AROUND THE FIRE STRIPE.

THAT'S A TURNAROUND RIGHT? RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOOD WITH IT.

NICE. VERY INTERESTING DESIGN.

SO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION WAS WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST REDO IT? SO THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. IT'S A GOOD, GOOD QUESTION ACTUALLY. SO HE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO SELL THIS PROPERTY TO RHODES IN DECEMBER, AND HE DOESN'T WANT THEM TO ZONE IT TO TOWNHOMES.

HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.

AND THIS IS THE WAY THAT HE COULD ACCOMPLISH THAT. YEAH.

COULD YOU REZONE TO THE TOWNHOME NOW YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. YEAH. AND HE LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NEXT DOOR. SO HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO TOWNHOMES.

NO KEN BURNS. BURNS. YEAH, HE LIVES THERE.

THE COVES, THE ORIGINAL COVES, WHICH IS JUST.

YEAH. IT'S BASICALLY NEXT DOOR TO THESE.

TO THE NORTH. SO THERE'S THOSE ARE TWO.

THERE'S A THIRD VARIANCE ONE REAL QUICK.

YOU CAN SEE IT HERE IS THE SIDEWALK.

THE SIDEWALK. IF YOU LOOK HERE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SIDEWALKS ON THE NORTH SIDE INSTEAD OF ALONG THE STREET.

THAT'S LIKE A LIKE A WALKING TRAIL ON THE BACK WALKING TRAIL. IT'S GOING TO CONNECT TO THE SUBDIVISION YOU'RE GOING TO SEE NEXT. SO WE'D LIKE TO DO THIS AT THE SUBDIVISION

[01:05:03]

BUT FROM LOTS ONE THROUGH LOTS 22 THERE WILL BE SIDEWALKS FRONTING THE ROAD.

SO YOU'RE STILL PUTTING SIDEWALKS.

EVERY LOT WILL HAVE SIDEWALK. AND THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF A PIECE OF LAND.

AS A DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE LAND THAT YOU HAVE AND THEN HAVING THESE NEW, DIFFERENT KIND OF CONCEPTS.

OUR UDC DOESN'T FIT THIS COOKIE CUTTER, THIS NOT COOKIE CUTTER, NONCONVENTIONAL, NON-CONVENTIONAL, MUCH NICER TO BE HONEST.

IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF SUBDIVISION.

YOU'RE SQUARE. IT'S INNOVATIVE.

VERY INNOVATIVE. OUT OF THE BOX.

OUT OF THE BOX. WELL, WHAT MAKES IT NICE IS THAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING THE CARS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

IF YOU GO TO SOME OF THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE REALLY DENSE, IT'S HARD TO EVEN DRIVE BY BECAUSE THERE'S CARS ON THE STREET.

CARS ON THE STREETS. YEAH.

IN THIS CASE. BUT THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE WITH THE OTHER ONES.

IF THEY DON'T HAVE SOME KIND OF, THEN YOU END UP WITH A MESS.

YOU END UP WITH, LIKE YOU CAN'T PARK YOUR CAR ON THE STREET.

THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. YEAH. AND YOU'LL SEE IT ON THE NEXT ONE.

BUT THIS VARIANCE OF THE THE 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY VARIANCE, YOU HAVE IT SOMEWHERE INSIDE THAT PREVIOUS SUBDIVISION I DO.

SO IT'S A YOU CAN'T SEE THE SUBDIVISION HERE BUT ON THIS.

SO IT'S BEEN APPROVED IN THE PAST.

CORRECT SIR. THIS WAS DONE THE EXACT SAME WAY.

WE DID THE SAME THING SEVERAL TIMES. OKAY.

IT WORKS OUT WELL. IT STILL WORKS.

IT ACTUALLY UTILITY DEPARTMENT GETS MORE ROOM TO WORK ON THE UTILITIES. THIS SPECIFIC ONE WAS RECORDED EARLIER THIS YEAR, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AND IT WAS RECORDED WITH A 38 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

THAT'S JUST ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. HOW ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS? I BELIEVE THEY GOT THE SAME VARIANCES. SO IT WAS ALL THE THREE. SO WE'RE DOING THE SIDEWALKS ALONG THE RESACA AS WE BUILT THE LOTS.

IT'S KIND OF DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, IT'LL LOOK REAL NEAT. SO PEOPLE WERE TO WALK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY NEED TO WALK THROUGH THE RESACA, AND THERE'S A GATE RIGHT HERE THAT THEY COULD USE TO GET OUT TO THE MAIN ROAD.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE DO. IT IS ACTUALLY HERE. THIS IS THE GUINEA PIG. AND I THINK HOPEFULLY IT SHOULD WORK OUT.

WELL, WE'RE BUILDING OUR FIRST HOUSE HERE. IT'S FOR SALE FOR 600,000.

THIS IS DEFINITELY A TEAR DOWN, BUT IS THAT A RECENT PICTURE? IT'S FROM TODAY. I DON'T SEE THE BIG ELECTRIC SIGN OVER HERE.

IT'S OVER THERE. SEE HOW SMALL IT IS, GUYS? YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE IT. YOU CAN'T.

WE SHOULD HAVE GONE BIGGER, MAN. YEAH, YEAH.

THANK YOU. MARIO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT, SO I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH A MOTION ON.

SO HAVE WE APPROVED ALL THESE VARIANCES ON THE ON THE PREVIOUS ONE ON PREVIOUS.

OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND. WELL I'LL START WITH A WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A VARIANCE REQUEST.

VARIANCE OF A INDIVIDUAL.

HAVE WE GOT A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND.

EVERYBODY IN FAVOR PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

NOW VARIANCE TWO OR B I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES AND VARIANCE THREE.

MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND IN FAVOR.

RAISE YOUR HAND. EVERYBODY OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

[A. Consider the Preliminary Plat approval of Antigua Village Subdivision, being a 2.93 Acres tract]

STAFF. YES, SIR. SO THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY JUST NORTH OF THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED EARLIER RIGHT NOW.

IT IS ALONG LA SIENNA PARKWAY.

IT'S ABOUT 1500FT NORTH OF BURNS BOULEVARD.

THEY'RE PROPOSING A 69 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.

THE PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL IS ALSO UP ON CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT.

THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS FOR SECTION 5.206-A AS IT REGARDS TO BLOCK LENGTH UDC CALLS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 1000 FOOT FOR BLOCK LENGTH.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 2000FT, GIVE OR TAKE. THIS IS THE FIRST PHASE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

THEY ARE PROPOSING A CONTINUATION OF THE SUBDIVISION THAT THEY HAVEN'T SUBMITTED TO US YET. WE DID DISCUSS WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS THE REASON FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON DENIAL JUST BASED OFF OF UDC.

WHAT IT CALLS FOR. WE MET WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WITH ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT? FIRE DEPARTMENT JUST FEELS THE CHARACTERISTIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T REALLY ALLOW FOR THOUSAND FOOT BLOCK LENGTHS. THAT'S NOT THE STREET. YOU KNOW, YOUR NORMAL STRAIGHTAWAY STREETS.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND LEAVE IT UP FOR THE BOARD TO DELIBERATE.

[B. Consider Variance Requests to the City's Unified Development Code, Article 5 Section 5.206-A]

[01:10:03]

IT IS CONSIDERED TO BE ESSENTIALLY FROM EDGE OF LAW TO EDGE OF LOT WHICHEVER WAY DIRECTION YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER STREET YOU'RE TAKING A LOOK AT.

IN THIS CASE, FOR THIS ONE, IT WOULD GO FROM THE CUL DE SAC, ONE ON THE EAST MOST, YOU KNOW, THE THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE THERE ALL THE WAY TO WHERE THEY ARE GOING FURTHER EAST.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 2000FT.

YEAH, BUT HOW HARD WOULD IT BE FOR THEM TO PUT A CONNECTOR ROAD TO THE NEXT PHASE? PUT A STUB? THEY WERE PROPOSING SOME OTHER SOLUTIONS PERHAPS.

THEY DO HAVE A COMMON AREA LOT IN THE MIDDLE.

AND SO, AGAIN, THE ENGINEERS ARE IN HUNT, IF YOU'D LIKE.

THE ENGINEER OF RECORD CAN COME UP AND KIND OF SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AS WELL.

GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. FOR THE RECORD I GOT ANOTHER BOARD, SO I DON'T NORMALLY BRING BOARDS, BUT I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE. AND THEN I HAVE THE MASTER PLAN HERE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT. BUT THIS SUBDIVISION IS BASICALLY UP HERE WHERE THE WHERE THE PALM TREE FARM IS.

THE LAST PHASE OF IT WAS HERE.

SO THIS WILL BE THE EXACT SAME PROTOTYPE HOMES.

THESE ARE HOMES BETWEEN 350 AND 500,000.

THEY SOLD OUT VERY WELL. THIS WAS LIKE 130 LOTS.

THIS NEXT PHASE IS PROPOSED.

LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

IT'S OVER 54 ACRES, 194 LOTS GOING TO BE DONE IN THREE PHASES.

A SOLUTION. WE HAVE TO OVERCOME BLOCK LENGTHS WHEN WE'RE DOING SUBDIVISIONS LIKE THIS IS AN INTERCONNECTED COMMON AREA WITH A 20 OR 18 FOOT CONCRETE DRIVE.

IT'LL HAVE A BOLLARD. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN.

WHY NOT? WHY NOT PUT CONNECTORS BETWEEN THEM? IT'S ESSENTIALLY IT'LL ACT AS A ROAD, RIGHT? IT'LL BE A CONCRETE ROAD, BUT NOT FOR AMBULANCE OR FIRE.

YEAH. SO FIRE. FAR I'VE MET WITH FIRE ALREADY ON THIS.

THIS IS THE AGREEMENT WE'VE HAD IN OTHER CITIES.

AND I THINK IT IT'S A ROAD WITH A BOLLARD, SO YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING ON IT FOR THEM TO TURN IT AROUND. THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN AND AROUND TO GET TO A BURNING FIRE. SO YOU HAVE TWO POINTS OF INGRESS EGRESS, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TWO POINTS OF INGRESS EGRESS. THIS WILL BE JUST TO BREAK THE BLOCK LENGTH.

THAT SHOULD BE THE STREET OR THAT SORT OF THING.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO TURN AROUND.

SO FOR PHASE ONE WITH WHAT THEY'VE ASKED US TO DO IS AT THE END TO PAVE A CUL DE SAC, EVEN THOUGH IT'LL BE TEMPORARY. YES, SIR.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO AT THIS TIME.

WE'RE AT AT THE VERY END OF THE LOT.

WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO A PAVE TO TURNAROUND MEETING.

FIRE CODE BY THE DITCH.

WHERE THE DITCH. RIGHT. SO OR THE.

YEAH, JUST CLOSE TO THE DITCH. YES, SIR. AND MY IPAD IS NOT WORKING.

IT WAS A FIRE MARSHAL MARSHALL HAS TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH THE FIRE MARSHALL, AND WE WERE KIND OF DEBATING WHETHER OR NOT TO EVEN GET A VARIANCE, BECAUSE WE FELT THAT THE THE SPACING REQUIREMENT APPLIES TO TRADITIONAL BLOCKS.

AND BEING THAT THIS IS ALL CURVY ROADS AND STUFF.

STAFF RECOMMENDED PRETTY STRICT DENIAL.

DENIAL THAT WAS RECOMMENDED DENIAL BASED ON THE PDC OR THE TRADITIONAL MODEL.

THAT WAS THE REASON FOR DENIAL ON THIS ONE.

BUT WHAT'S WHAT'S THE OPPOSITION FOR PUTTING, YOU KNOW, JUST A ROAD DOWN THE MIDDLE, NORTH AND SOUTH? WE LIKE TO USE IT AS AN AMENITY.

SO THIS IS GOING TO SAVE A LOT.

YEAH. THIS IS PROPOSED AS A AS A WALKING TRAIL.

SO IF YOU LOOK HERE, SIMILAR TO THE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS HERE, IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE SIDEWALK IN THE BACK. IT'S ALL GOING TO CONNECT TO THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL. PUT A ROAD PUT A SIDEWALK NEXT TO IT.

MY CONCERN IS FOR THEM.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO FIND OUT. THEY THINK ABOUT FOR EMERGENCIES.

AND THOSE, THOSE BOLLARDS, THEY WOULD BE KNOCKED DOWN BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY'RE RETRACTABLE.

OKAY. IN AN EMERGENCY, YOU CAN DRIVE ON THAT.

FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN GO THROUGH THERE. YES, SIR. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. SO YOU WENT THROUGH THIS? YOU CAN'T DRIVE THROUGH IT. YEAH.

RIGHT. IT'S WIDE ENOUGH FOR THE FIRE TRUCK.

IT WOULD JUST BE FOR EMERGENCY FIRST RESPONDERS. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO. HOW DO YOU. HOW DO YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE? YOUR FIRE TRUCK KNOCKS IT DOWN.

IT'LL IT'LL MEET ALL THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. IT'LL BE. I THINK WE AGREED TO HAVE AN 18 FOOT FOOT WIDE STREET TO ACCESS IT.

AND WE'VE HAD THOSE TYPE OF SETUPS BEFORE WHERE THOSE BOLLARDS, WHERE THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF DEVICE, WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE THEM DOWN AND PUT THEM BACK UP. BUT THIS, I GUESS, WHAT THE PLANNING WAS TRYING TO SAY, THAT THIS SUBDIVISION DOESN'T REALLY MEET THE STANDARD FOR THE FOR THE EDC OR THE STANDARD SUBDIVISION WITH PARALLEL STREETS.

THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF THIS SUBDIVISION HAS WINDING STREETS IN IT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO IT'S STILL A SAFETY ISSUE FOR ME. IT'S JUST TIME TO GET AROUND THE SUBDIVISION IN CASE THERE'S A CASE. WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TWO WAYS IN TWO WAY OUT HOURS. BY THE TIME THE SECOND PHASE IS OVER, THEIR FACE IS DONE TO DROP THE BONES.

[01:15:02]

YEAH. I MEAN, IT'LL BE A KEY OR THERE'S SOME THAT THERE'S A LITTLE DEVICE WHERE YOU CAN PICK UP AND PUSH DOWN.

YEAH, LIKE A LEVER. AND I WOULD IMAGINE MAYBE YOU CAN COVER YOURSELF WITH MORE FIRE HYDRANTS. RIGHT. I MEAN, THE HYDRANTS WILL BE THE TYPICAL HYDROGEN STANDARD FOR WHATEVER.

IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF SUBDIVISION.

YEAH. WHATEVER IS THE WHAT, 600FT SEPARATION, RIGHT? BUT THIS IS THE SAME KIND OF CONCEPT.

I MEAN, THAT THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION HAS.

I MEAN, THERE'S WINDING STREETS, AND THE MAIN THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ACCESSIBILITY. WE STILL HAVE TWO WAYS IN.

I MEAN, WE HAVE TO THE SUBDIVISION.

SO, I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE FINE WITH IT.

I MEAN, IT WON'T HINDER OUR RESPONSE ANY.

GOOD DEAL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU CHIEF. SO STAFF'S REASON WAS JUST BECAUSE OF THE BLOCK LENGTH, THE BLOCK LENGTH THAT'S CALLED OUT BY EDC.

WHEN IT WAS PROPOSED ON THE SUBDIVISION PLAT WE MEASURED IT OUT.

SO ENGINEERING AND PLANNING AND ZONING CALLED IT OUT THAT IT EXCEEDS THE TRADITIONAL BLOCK LENGTH. YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE WHERE YOU KIND OF HAVE TO STICK TO IT BECAUSE IT'S STILL IN THE EDC. YEAH, BUT I'M WONDERING, LIKE SOME OF THEIR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, THEY ALL HAVE WINDY ROADS.

I WONDER HOW LONG THOSE ROADS ARE.

THEY'RE PROBABLY MORE THAN 1000FT.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT WILL WE ACCEPT? HOW LONG CAN THIS WINDING ROAD BE BEFORE WE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT IT NEEDS A CROSS ROAD.

HOW DO YOU MEASURE THE BLOCK LENGTH? I MEAN, IT'S OH, BY THE LENGTH OF THE BLOCK LENGTH.

YEAH, YEAH, RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE.

THEY HAVE PRECEDENCE. NOT ON THIS SUBDIVISION, NOT ON THIS ONE ON THE SOUTH, ONE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

RIGHT. LIKE YOU HAVE WINDING STREETS ALL AROUND. LIKE ALL MORE OR LESS THE SAME.

THAT'S FOR SLOWING TRAFFIC DOWN. IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT THAT DOES? ESTHETICS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT A TYPICAL SUBDIVISION AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE CALL THE RICK HARRISON COPING DESIGN, IT ACTUALLY ABOUT 20 TO 30% LESS PAVEMENT.

SO YOUR OVERALL PAVING, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT.

I DIDN'T BELIEVE UNTIL I TRIED TO BEAT HIM A FEW TIMES. I COULD NEVER BEAT HIM. THE GUY THAT DID THAT PROGRAM.

YES, SIR. SO HE HAS A PROGRAM HE HAS A PATENT ON.

SO THERE'S LESS PAVEMENT.

IT GIVES YOU MORE FRONTAGE ON THE LOTS.

I THINK IT'S KIND OF COOL.

THE TYPICAL COOKIE CUTTER NEIGHBORHOOD.

YEAH. WE'VE DONE THIS.

THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, LIKE, GREEN SPACES AND THEY'VE GOT WALKING TRAILS. IT'S RIGHT IN KIND OF WHAT WE DO IS WE WE SET OUR OWN SETBACKS.

SO CITY SETBACKS 20 SOME OF THESE LOTS ON THE CURBS HAVE LIKE A 30 40 FOOT SETBACK.

YEAH. SO SO SO SO IT'S NOT TO THE HOUSE ISN'T TOO FAR TO THE FRONT OF THE LOT SO YOU CAN SEE AROUND IT. EXACTLY.

SO WE DO WHAT WE CALL THE SELF-IMPOSED SETBACK.

SO EVERYTHING'S ORDERLY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST SOUTH OF IT, WE HAVE THE EXACT SAME SCENARIO.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS RECORDED 15 YEARS AGO.

THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME IN THE COUNTY THAT A SUBDIVISION WAS RECORDED.

SO KENT BURNS, LA SIENA, THE COVES.

PHASE ONE WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY INTRODUCED THIS GENTLEMAN TO THE VALLEY.

IT'S JUST ON THIS ONE. THEY LOOK STRAIGHTER.

YEAH, THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT STRAIGHTER BECAUSE IT'S A LONG RECTANGLE PIECE.

IT'S 54 ACRES. THREE PHASES.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE LAKES AND THE WATERWAYS, BUT YEAH, I THINK IT'S CENTRAL AMENITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE A REAL NICE SUBDIVISION. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU BUDDY. THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE A MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND FOR FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

[C. Consider Variance Requests to the City's Unified Development Code, Article 5 Section 5.202-J,]

THE ENGINEER IS NOT PRESENT AT THE MOMENT. SO THEY WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND TABLE THE ITEM.

[10. CONSENT AGENDA]

SECOND FAVOR PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM NINE. SEATS TABLED A MOTION FOR CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEMS TEN, A, B, C, D, AND E SO MOVED SECOND IN FAVOR.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

COOL. YOU GOT ANYTHING, SIR? OH, I WANTED TO INVITE THE WHOLE BOARD TO A LUNCH AND LEARN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HOSTING NEXT THURSDAY.

HERE IN THIS IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM MR. BEN ALONSO, WHO'S OUR NEW DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, IS GOING TO BE HOSTING THE LUNCH AND LEARN. HE'S GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN HOSTING THESE TYPES OF OF LEARNING, LEARNING SESSIONS FOR THE NEW COMMISSIONERS.

BUT IT COULD BE ALSO FOR SOME OF YOU GUYS THAT ARE PRETTY WELL SEASONED IN THIS IN THIS

[11. INFORMATION ONLY]

SO HE'S GOING TO GIVE SOME GENERAL GUIDANCE ON YOUR AUTHORITY AS A BOARD.

[01:20:01]

THERE'S FOOD HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THIS WAS A PRETTY LENGTHY MEETING.

[A. Attendance Roster]

SO WE BROUGHT BACK THE DINNERS.

DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR DECEMBER? NOT SURE EXACTLY. WHAT IS IT? THE SECOND TUESDAY. IT'S ON A THURSDAY.

ON THURSDAY IT'S ON A THURSDAY OR SECOND THURSDAY. YEAH.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT FALLS LIKE ON THE 17TH, I BELIEVE.

NOVEMBER, DECEMBER 2ND ON THE 19TH, 12TH, DECEMBER 12TH.

OKAY. AND ONLY ONE MEETING IN DECEMBER.

CORRECT. SECOND, SECOND.

THE 12TH. THURSDAY. RIGHT.

AND NO MORE MEETINGS IN NOVEMBER.

CORRECT. NO MORE MEETINGS IN NOVEMBER AND ONLY ONE IN DECEMBER. OKAY,

[12. ADJOURNMENT]

A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED.

SECOND. FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. MEETING ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. WASN'T THAT BAD AT THAT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.