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2024. REGULAR MEETING.

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THANK YOU. THE MOTION FROM THE BOARD, PLEASE.

THEY'RE BETTER FOR ME BECAUSE I CAN'T DO THE FOURTH THURSDAY OF EVERYTHING, OR I CAN MISS ONE MEETING MONEY OVER THERE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. WE'VE ESTABLISHED A QUORUM. LET'S PLEASE RISE FOR PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE. LET US PRAY.

GOD OUR FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR HAVING CALLED US TOGETHER.

THAT WE MAY HUMBLY SERVE YOU AT THIS MEETING.

SEND YOUR HOLY SPIRIT UPON US AND REMAIN PRESENT AMONG US, AND LEAD US INTO THE CONVERSATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS WE WILL HAVE.

BLESS OUR WORDS AND THOUGHTS WITH HOLINESS, THAT WE MAY BE FITTING INSTRUMENTS OF YOUR GRACE. AND WE ASK THIS IN YOUR NAME.

AMEN, AMEN, AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.

ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

[A. Prayer]

[B. Pledge of Allegiance]

TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

NO CERTIFICATION. PUBLIC NOTICE.

YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN, STAFF DID NOTIFY THE PUBLIC AS PER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE 23RD OF AUGUST AT 5 P.M..

THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE'D LIKE TO DISCLOSE ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST COMMISSION. NONE.

NONE. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ALONG WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. IF THERE ARE RESIDENT DESIRES TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE NOTIFY THE CHAIRPERSON PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING.

[2. Certification of Public Notice]

[3. Disclosure of Conflict of Interest]

A SPOKESPERSON FOR LARGE GROUPS IS REQUIRED.

[4. Meeting Procedures]

WE ASK FOR EVERYONE'S COOPERATION IN THE FOLLOWING THESE PROCEDURES.

[5. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

SO AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? PLEASE STEP UP TO THE PODIUM.

YES. GOOD EVENING. I THINK THE LAST TIME I WAS AT YOUR MEETING, YOU, ONE OF YOU REQUESTED.

MY NAME IS FERN MCCLARITY.

I'M ONE OF THE OWLS. I HAD A COUPLE OF CALLS AND WE'RE ASKING ABOUT THE UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARING. I BELIEVE IT'S A THAT THEY KIND OF WANTED TO KNOW WHERE IT WAS EXACTLY.

AND BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A SELF-SERVICE STORAGE UNIT DEVELOPMENT THERE THAT THEY'RE WANTING. AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF SEVERAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, WHICH WILL BE RIGHT ON THIS PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT.

AND THEN I BELIEVE THERE USED TO BE A WELDER IN HIS COMPANY AND THEN SOME MORE HOMES.

SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU'LL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AS TO THAT AREA.

WE ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SEWER SYSTEM, AND EVERY TIME THAT THE CITY IS ALLOWING AND BRINGING HOMES OR BUSINESSES, I DON'T THINK Y'ALL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THE SEWER SYSTEM CANNOT HANDLE IT OVER THERE ON MCCALL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN OVER THERE, BUT ON CHAPIN AND MCCALL, THERE'S A LITTLE PIPE ABOUT YAY HIGH, YEAH. AND IT CONSTANTLY RUNS OVER.

AND SO WE GOT RAIN COMING TONIGHT AND TOMORROW.

SO WE'LL SEE HOW IT RUNS OVER.

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AND IF ANY OF YOU WANT ME TO SEND YOU THE PICTURE, I HAVE THEM ON MY PHONE.

I CAN SEND IT TO YOU SO YOU CAN SEE THE OVERFLOW OF THE SEWER ON CHAPIN AND IT RUNS INTO MCCALL. SO I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY IF Y'ALL EVER LOOK AT THIS KIND OF A THING ABOUT THE SEWER SYSTEM AND STUFF, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES. DO YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL THE ITEM COMES UP OR DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON IT NOW I CAN WAIT ON THE ITEM THAT COMES UP. NO PROBLEM MA'AM. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, I'LL GO AND CLOSE THE FLOOR. MISTER, CAN WE DO ALL THREE ABSENCES TOGETHER OR CAN WE MOTION THEM TOGETHER? YES.

OKAY, WE'LL GO TO ABSENCES.

WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE EXCUSING OF THE ABSENCE OF COMMISSIONER MEMBER MISS RUBY CASAS FROM THE JULY 9TH, 2020 REGULAR MEETING.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO CONSIDER THE EXCUSING THE ABSENCE OF COMMISSIONER MEMBER MR. JORGE GONZALEZ FROM THE JULY 23RD, 2024 SPECIAL MEETING, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE EXCUSING THE ABSENCE OF COMMISSIONER MEMBER MR..

OLIVARES FROM THE JULY 23RD, 20 2024 SPECIAL MEETING.

[6. ABSENCES]

CAN I GET A MOTION? SO MOVED.

[A. Consider excusing the absence of Commission member Ms. Ruby Casas from the July 9, 2024,]

SECOND. MEMBER. FAIR. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

[B. Consider excusing the absence of Commission member Mr. Jorge Gonzalez from the July 23, 2024,]

OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

[C. Consider excusing the absence of Commission member Mr. Rene Olivarez from the July 23, 2024,]

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JULY 23RD,

[7. MINUTES]

2024 SPECIAL MEETING. MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

[A. Consider Approval of the Minutes for the July 23, 2024, Special Meeting]

SECOND. EVERYBODY IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

[8. PUBLIC HEARINGS]

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM EIGHT A, WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE REZONING REQUEST FROM RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN DISTRICT TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT.

A 5.00 ACRE TRACT OF LAND BEING THE SOUTH FIVE ACRES OF THE NORTH.

TEN ACRES OF THE SOUTH.

30 ACRES OF LOT 15, SECTION 237 TEXAS MEXICAN RAILROAD MEXICAN RAILWAY COMPANY SURVEY LOCATED AT 1000 NORTH MCCAUL ROAD.

STEPH. GOOD EVENING, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. JAIME ACEVEDO, PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD. THIS REZONING IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR A FIVE ACRE TRACT OF LAND AT 1000 NORTH MCCAUL ROAD. AND IT'S TO GO FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.

GENERAL. THE SURROUNDING ZONINGS IN THE AREA ARE RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST.

TO THE EAST, WE HAVE A PROPERTY THAT'S ZONED AG.

AND THEN TO THE SOUTH WE HAVE PROPERTY THAT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S BEING USED EITHER FOR A WELDING SHOP OR A JUNKYARD OF SOME SORT.

BACK IN MAY OF 2022, THIS ITEM DID GET A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. HOWEVER, WHEN THE ITEM WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED IT DOWN BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION FROM FROM SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS. THERE WAS A LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED EARLIER TODAY IN WHICH THAT SAME NEIGHBOR IS NOW SUPPORTING THE PROPOSED PROJECT WHICH IS THAT FOR A STORAGE UNIT FACILITY. STORAGE UNIT FACILITIES REQUIRE A GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING.

SO THAT'S THE REQUEST.

AND BECAUSE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND BECAUSE THE EXISTING SURROUNDING USES ARE ALL EITHER MULTIFAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY IN NATURE.

STAFF IS INCLINED TO TO RECOMMEND AGAINST THE THE REZONING AT THIS TIME.

WE HAVE SEEN SOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS FURTHER SOUTH.

BUT AT THIS TIME THE AREA THAT'S IN QUESTION IS STILL EITHER SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY.

SO STAFF IS AGAINST IT.

THIS ITEM IS NOW BEFORE YOU.

I MOVE BACK WHEN IT WAS APPROVED TWO YEARS AGO.

I KNOW YOU WEREN'T THERE WEREN'T HERE AT THAT TIME, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OF WHY IT WAS RECOMMENDED? BECAUSE IT HAD TO BE EVEN MORE RURAL THAN THAN IT IS NOW.

RIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN IS WE SAW THE APARTMENTS ON THE WEST SIDE THAT WERE RECENTLY DEVELOPED.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN, IT WAS PROBABLY EVEN MORE RURAL BACK THEN.

IT WAS A DIFFERENT STAFF.

IT WAS PROBABLY A DIFFERENT P AND Z BOARD.

BUT WHEN IT GOT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, IT WAS SHOT DOWN AND IT WAS DENIED.

THE, THE INTENDED USE, I BELIEVE, IS FOR STORAGE UNITS.

CORRECT? CORRECT. SO THE LAST TIME WAS AT THE INTENT STORAGE UNITS? YEAH, I THINK I REMEMBER IT WAS IT WAS THE SAME COMPANY, CUBIC WALLS. REMEMBER TWO YEARS AGO.

NOW, KEEP IN MIND THAT STORAGE UNITS, YOU HARDLY SEE ANY TRAFFIC.

I MEAN, IT'S A LOW TRAFFIC TYPE OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.

HOWEVER, IT STILL REQUIRES A GENERAL BUSINESS REZONING, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE INCLINED TO.

AND THEN MY TAKE AGAIN IS I'M NOT THE OWNER.

AND WHAT'S THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE? AND I KNOW FERN IS TALKING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE.

THAT'S. YOU GUYS GO THROUGH THAT, RIGHT.

AND THERE'S ENGINEERS THAT ADDRESS THAT.

THAT WOULD ALL BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS. AND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET YOU HAVE A BUNCH MORE, MORE THAN 50 FOURPLEX APARTMENTS.

SO AGAIN, IF I WAS A NEIGHBOR THERE, I'D RATHER HAVE STORAGE UNITS THAN THAN

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MULTIFAMILY AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC.

RIGHT. AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK MY INTENT IS TO STOP GROWTH UNLESS THAT'S THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE CITY. BUT BUT I KNOW I WORK IN MCALLEN AND WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE A HUGE TAX BASE.

NOW, THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN SAY IS THAT WE CAN'T HOLD THEM TO THAT.

IF THE DEAL DOESN'T GO THROUGH FOR STORAGE UNITS, WE CAN'T APPROVE IT CONDITIONALLY.

THEY COULD TURN AROUND AND SELL IT TOMORROW AND DO SOMETHING ELSE.

SO THE ZONING THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR PERMITS.

WHAT? BESIDES STORAGE UNITS BE A RESTAURANT.

IT CAN BE A GASOLINE STATION.

IT CAN BE A STRIP MALL.

IT CAN BE PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING. AND IT'S A LONG, NARROW PIECE OF PROPERTY.

CORRECT. IT'S FIVE ACRES, BUT IT'S NOT VERY.

AND MY THING AGAIN IS, IS HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF REAL ESTATE BACKGROUND. USUALLY A. C STORE NEEDS A CORNER, A LIGHT. AND CERTAINLY YOU'RE RIGHT.

THIS IS ONLY 164FT WIDE.

SO IT DOESN'T REALLY LEND ITSELF TO.

RIGHT. TO A LOT OF COMMERCIAL THINGS.

YEAH. THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF.

YEAH. I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. THANKS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. MY NAME IS ALFONSO QUINTANILLA. I'M THE PROJECT ENGINEER.

I'M FROM QUINTANILLA AND ASSOCIATES, ENGINEERS AND SURVEYORS HERE IN EDINBURGH.

JUST AS MR. ACEVEDO MENTIONED.

AND I ALSO HAVE WITH ME MR. JOE QUIROGA, WHO'S A CONSULTANT, AND MR. PAREDES, THE PROPERTY OWNER, IS ALSO HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.

AS MR. AZEVEDO WAS MAKING HIS PRESENTATION TO YOU BACK IN FEBRUARY 8TH OF EIGHTH OF 2022.

I CAME BEFORE YOU. WE CAME BEFORE YOU.

SOME OF YOU WERE HERE. SOME OF YOU WERE NOT.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

AND IN THAT MEETING, NOBODY SHOWED UP VOICING CONCERNS, OPPOSITION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO THE MEETING CARRIED ON, AND AS BEST AS I CAN REMEMBER, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IT.

AND I HAVE STILL THE SAME BOOKLET BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS THE SAME.

AFTER THAT MEETING, WHEN WE WENT TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON MARCH 1ST OF 2022, THE CITY COMMISSION WITH SOME NEW MEMBERS AT THAT POINT IN TIME DENIED THE REQUEST, AND I BELIEVE PRIMARILY WAS BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE NORTH THEN SHOWED UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

SHE DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, BUT THEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO DENY IT.

AND WE RESPECTED THAT DECISION EVER SINCE THEN.

MY CLIENT, MR. PEREZ, HAS BEEN IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THIS ONE PARTICULAR OWNER, WHO'S THE ONE WHO EXPRESSED CONCERNS.

NOW, ALSO, SOME THINGS HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THEN TO TODAY.

NOW THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY IS THE DAUGHTER AND THE SON IN LAW OF THE LADY.

AND THEY HAVE NOW SUBMITTED AND YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY SIGNED WITH MR. PEREZ. MR. PEREZ HAS AGREED TO BUILD A WOODEN FENCE, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMON PROPERTY LINE.

BUT IF YOU SEE IN THAT LETTER, THEY'RE VOICING NOW THEIR THEIR FAVORABLE APPROVAL ON THIS REQUEST FOR THE STORAGE UNITS.

NOW JUST VERY BRIEFLY, WE ALL KNOW MICHAEL RODE IS A IS AN ARTERIAL ROAD. IT'S A TXDOT ROAD.

SO THE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY IS IS VERY EXCELLENT IN REGARDS TO THE UTILITIES, THE WATER LINE IS FROM, CHERRY LANE IS RIGHT THERE.

THE SANITARY SEWER WAS BROUGHT TO THE APARTMENT, SO WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT TO THE SANITARY SEWER.

NOW BEAR IN MIND THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THERE'S ONLY GOING TO BE A SMALL OFFICE, MAYBE TWO, THREE EMPLOYEES. SO THE USE OF WASTEWATER IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY MINIMAL COMPARED TO IF WE DO APARTMENTS, WHICH THEN THINGS CHANGE.

AS FAR AS THE DRAINAGE, THERE'S A COUNTY MAIN DRAIN DITCH ON THE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND AS COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ WAS MENTIONING, THE PROPERTY IS VERY NARROW ALONG THE 164FT AND THEN A QUARTER OF A MILE LONG.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE RETENTION INSIDE ON THE ON THE EAST END AND THEN CONNECT TO THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT.

SO THE WATER CAN GET OUT OF THE PROJECT INTO THE COUNTY DRAIN.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW, EVEN THOUGH ZONING IS PART OF THE PROCESS.

ALSO THE LAND USE. RIGHT.

THE CURRENT LAND USE. AND AS MR. AZEVEDO SEVERAL MENTIONED TO THE SOUTH.

THERE'S A MECHANIC SHOP.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE A JUNKYARD.

IT'S BEEN THERE. MY OPINION? IT'S PROBABLY GRANDFATHERED. YOU KNOW, IT WAS THERE BEFORE THE CITY ANNEXED.

THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, SOME AUTOMOTIVE, YOU KNOW, SHOPS TO THE SOUTH. SO IT'S A MIX OF USE ALONG THE WAY THERE.

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NOW, IN REGARDS TO MR. PAREDES, MY CLIENT, HE HAS A SIMILAR OPERATION IN MISSION, SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.

HE'S OPERATED FOR 17 YEARS.

NEVER HAD AN ISSUE, NEVER A CONCERN OF ANY SORT.

OUR PROJECT, AS STATED BY MR. AZEVEDO. AND I'M STATING IT TO YOU AS THE PROJECT ENGINEER.

THIS IS THE FIRST STEP, WHICH IS THE ZONE CHANGE.

WE HAD ACTUALLY SUBMITTED THE SUBDIVISION, BUT THEN WE STOPPED BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED.

BUT WE ARE GOING TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE CITY REQUIREMENTS, ORDINANCES, EVERYTHING.

AND FOR THE WAY, BY THE WAY, THERE WILL BE NO RETAIL MR. PAREDES HAS NO INTENTION OF CREATING ANY RETAIL BUSINESSES THERE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CREATE MORE TRAFFIC AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THE ESTIMATED BASED ON HIS EXPERIENCE RUNNING THESE FACILITIES, THE ESTIMATED NUMBER OF VEHICLES PER DAY IN AND OUT OF THE FACILITY SHOULD BE ABOUT 20, WHICH IS EXTREMELY MINIMAL.

LO MR., I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE'RE THREE MINUTES EARLY, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS JOE QUIROGA.

AS MR. ALFONSO CANTINA STATED BELOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MR. PAREDES NOW FOR THE BETTER PART OF TWO YEARS AND HELPING HIM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO LURE HIM TO EDINBURG.

AS A LOCAL EDINBURG NATIVE, I WANTED HIM TO TO BRING HIS FACILITY TO EDINBURG. AND GIVEN GIVEN THE HISTORY THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOW AWARE OF YOU KNOW, HE WAS HE MET SOME RESISTANCE.

I THINK HE'S WORKED IT OUT. HE HAS MAINTAINED HIS COMMITMENT TO THIS FACILITY AND THIS FACILITY ONLY, EVEN THOUGH PROBABLY THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE, LIKE MR. RAMIREZ COMMENTED, IS PROBABLY APARTMENTS.

BUT HE PROBABLY HE SAYS, LOOK, I WANT TO DO STORAGE UNITS AND REALLY KIND OF COMPLY WITH THE CITY REQUIREMENTS AT THE TIME.

SO SOMETHING THAT MR. ALFONSO QUINTANILLA MENTIONED WAS THE THE RETAIL PIECE.

OBVIOUSLY HE COULD USE SOME SOME RETAIL OR HE COULD DO IT IN TRYING TO MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH ANY OF THE CITY REQUIREMENTS. HE'S ELECTED TO NOT DO ANY RETAIL AT ALL, WHICH REALLY MINIMIZES THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC GOING IN.

HE ESTIMATES ABOUT 20 CARS A A DAY, OF WHICH AFTER 11 P.M., WHICH IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT RESIDENTS AFTER 11 P.M., HE SHUTS IT DOWN COMPLETELY.

THERE'S ZERO ACCESS TO THE FACILITY AFTER 11 P.M..

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.

AS A AS A LOCAL BANKER, MANY OF YOU GUYS KNOW WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING MORE BUSINESS TO EDINBURG. AND I, I WAS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING MR. PAREDES.

I WANT TO REITERATE A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, THE JUNKYARD IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF THIS. SO I THINK WE'RE BEAUTIFYING THE AREA.

NUMBER ONE, THERE'S AN AUTOMOTIVE SHOP LIKE MR. QUINTANILLA MENTIONED AS WELL. ALSO ABOUT 1000FT, MAYBE 800FT TO THE NORTH IS A DOLLAR GENERAL STORE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS A LOT MORE RETAIL.

AND THEN A COUPLE OF OTHER FACILITIES TO THE SOUTH OF THIS.

SO THAT WHOLE AREA OVER TIME WILL TRANSFORM ITSELF.

NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT'S 75 FOURPLEXES.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 300 UNITS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH ARE IN NEED OF THESE TYPE OF FACILITIES. AND SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO HELP, YOU KNOW, FACILITATE SOME OF THE NEEDS OF THE, OF THE CITY. AND THEN JUST TO REITERATE, THE ONE NEIGHBOR WHO, YOU KNOW, MR. PEREZ, WAITED TILL THE ONE NEIGHBOR WAS IN FAVOR, THEY WORKED SOME THINGS OUT AND NOW THEY'RE COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF THIS.

SO I WANT TO JUST REITERATE THE POINT THAT HE HAS MAINTAINED HIS COMMITMENT TO THIS PROJECT. HE HASN'T CHANGED IT.

HE WANTS TO CONTINUE WITH THAT. AND YOU HAVE HIS WORD THAT HE'LL DO ONLY STORAGE UNITS AND NOT ANYTHING RETAIL. I KNOW THE CLASSIFICATION FOR COMMERCIAL ALLOWS FOR OTHER USES, BUT HE HAS NO INTENTION WHATSOEVER.

AND I THINK SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED HERE IN THAT CITY COMMISSION, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. THERE'S RENDERINGS OF IT.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. IT'S VERY WELL DONE. AUTOMATED ACCESS, ALL THAT SORT OF THING WITH THE UTMOST OF SECURITY.

SO, ONCE AGAIN, I HOPE YOU CONSIDER ALL THE ITEMS, ESPECIALLY THE HISTORY THAT HAS HAS COME ON THIS PROJECT AND THE FACT THAT HE'S REMAIN COMMITTED TO THE PROJECT.

SO I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

ARE THERE ANY. THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU ALL. APPRECIATE IT. THE REASON IT WAS DENIED BY THE COUNCIL WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMEONE THAT WAS NOT IN FAVOR, AND NOW THAT PERSON IS IN FAVOR.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAY? I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S THIS LETTER.

IS THIS ONE RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

I BELIEVE THE APPLICANTS DID A LITTLE BIT OF THEIR HOMEWORK, AND THEY REACHED OUT TO THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS AGAINST IT PRIOR, AND NOW THEY HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT.

I GOT A QUESTION ON THE ON THE ZONING OF IT.

IF WE GO FROM I GUESS THIS IS GOING TO BE WHAT AUTO URBAN AND IT'S GOING TO BE GOING TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL OR COMMERCIAL GENERAL.

RIGHT. RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO PUT UP APARTMENT COMPLEX.

NO. OKAY. IT WOULD. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME TYPE OF RETAIL STORAGE UNIT.

HAS TO BE A COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY. CORRECT. AND BEING THAT THIN OF A PIECE OF LAND, ONLY 164 FOOT WIDE, THERE'S REALLY NOT FRONTAGE FOR RETAIL.

CORRECT. IT'S QUITE A GOOD PIECE FOR FOR FOURPLEX OR FOR STORAGE UNITS.

OKAY. ALSO REAL QUICK THE THE TYPE OF FENCE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IS WAS A WOODEN FENCE

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QUALIFY BETWEEN A COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

OR WOULD THEY HAVE TO PUT UP A FENCE OR MASONRY FENCE BETWEEN THEM? OR DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CODE IS WITH REGARDS TO WHAT KIND OF FENCE THEY WOULD HAVE TO PUT? BECAUSE I KNOW THEY SAID HERE IN THIS LETTER IT SAYS WOODEN FENCE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD EVEN BE ACCEPTABLE.

THE CODE DOES REQUIRE A CMU WALL A BLOCK WALL.

OKAY. HOWEVER, I THINK THERE'S BEEN VARIANCES ISSUED IN THE PAST DEPENDING ON THE SURROUNDING USES. IF THERE'S HOUSES ON THE NORTH SIDE, WELL, THEN TYPICALLY THE CMU WALL WOULD STAND.

BUT IF THERE ISN'T, IF IT'S JUST VACANT LAND WE HAVE GIVEN VARIANCES, I BELIEVE, TO ONE STORAGE UNIT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? WELL, I WAS HERE A FEW YEARS AGO, AND IF I'M NOT WRONG, I LOOKED UP YOUR BACKUP ON THIS PROPERTY.

IT WAS. IT'S A LONG PIECE, AND NOW IT'S GOT A LOT OF BRUSH ON IT.

THERE ARE 2 OR 3 HOUSES RIGHT ON THE NORTH OF IT, AND THEN NORTH OF THAT IS THE DRAINAGE DITCH.

AND THEY AT THAT TIME TOOK IT FROM AG TO RESIDENTIAL, BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS TOLD THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD ANOTHER HOME FOR THE MOTHER AND FOR THE DAUGHTER, FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD.

AND NOW YOU'RE COMING UP AND SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE FROM A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT USE, WHICH WENT FROM AG TO THAT.

AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD WHATEVER.

AND HOPEFULLY THEY KEEP THEIR WORD AS ONE ONE DEAL.

BUT IT SURE SOUNDS LIKE THEY COULD CHANGE.

AND THEN I WAS LOOKING UP THE THE PEOPLE AND THE ONES THAT YOU HAD CONTACTED IF THEY HAD A PROBLEM. THERE ARE ONLY 11 ON MCCALL ROAD THAT LIVED THERE SOMEWHERE NEARBY.

18 DO NOT LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR WHAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO AGAIN, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND SINGLE FAMILY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE HIS JUNKYARD IS THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE I LIVE ON MCCALL JUST TO THE NORTH. THERE IS.

IT USED TO BE TO THE SOUTH WAS A WELDING DEAL.

I CAN'T THINK WHAT HIS NAME WAS, AND I BELIEVE HE HAS PASSED AWAY OR WHATEVER.

AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE APARTMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. THERE. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THE JUNKYARD IS BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN A JUNKYARD. AND AND AGAIN, THE PEOPLE WE MOVED OUT THERE AND WE, MOST OF US ARE SINGLE FAMILY.

WE WE JUST TRY TO KEEP OUR HEADS DOWN AND THEN Y'ALL COME IN AND DO DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND SO WITH THEM SAYING, NO, WE PROMISE WE WON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE.

THE LADY THAT CHANGED IT FROM AG TO RESIDENTIAL HOME WAS ONLY GOING TO DO THAT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY LIVE THERE THAT GET NOTIFIED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT.

SO WE WORRY ABOUT TRAFFIC.

WE WORRY ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO PUT THERE BECAUSE, WHOOPS, THEY DECIDED TO CHANGE THEIR MIND.

SO THIS IS WHY THE THE PUBLIC ALWAYS ASKS THE QUESTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO. OKAY. I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE FLOOR AT THIS TIME.

COMMISSION. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

SO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVAL.

I'LL SECOND IT A SECOND.

EVERYBODY IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU EVERYONE.

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM EIGHT B RECONSIDER THE REZONING REQUEST FROM AGRICULTURE AND OPEN SPACE DISTRICT TO RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT. A ONE ACRE TRACT OF LAND OUT OF LOT EIGHT, BLOCK 55, ALAMO LAND AND SUGAR COMPANY SUBDIVISION, LOCATED AT 3001 EAST WISCONSIN ROAD.

STEPH. GOOD AFTERNOON, ALEX GONZALEZ, PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF NORTH ROAD, APPROXIMATELY. SORRY, IT'S LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST WISCONSIN ROAD, AND THE PROPERTY HAS A TOTAL FRONTAGE OF 67FT ALONG EAST WISCONSIN ROAD.

REQUESTED ZONING DESIGNATION IS THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR VARIOUS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.

THE LOT IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A ZONE CHANGE TO ESTABLISH A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AT THIS LOCATION.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURE AND OPEN SPACE DISTRICT.

ON DECEMBER 10TH OF 2013, THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY WITH THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT DESIGNATION.

ADJACENT ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH AND EAST, AGRICULTURE TO THE SOUTH AND WEST VIA SUBDIVISION ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED TO AUTO URBAN ON SEPTEMBER 1ST OF 2015.

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THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS FOR SINGLE FAMILY USES.

ZONE CHANGE REQUESTED WAS RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 10TH OF 2023.

IT WAS WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT PRIOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

AT THIS TIME, THE PROPERTY DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF 80FT FOR A DUPLEX OR MULTIPLEX, OR 100FT FOR AN APARTMENT.

IT WOULD NEED TO REQUEST A VARIANCE TO THE MINIMUM LOT WITH REQUIRED IF APPROVED. STAFF MAILED A NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TO 33 NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS IN FAVOR AND FIVE AGAINST THE REQUEST.

STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL.

AT THIS TIME, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL.

IF APPROVED, THEY WILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS AND BUILDING REQUIREMENTS.

ALEX IS THAT EDINBURG HIGH SCHOOL IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT. I'VE GOT A QUESTION, ALEX.

HOW DID THE DEVELOPMENT GET BUILT WITH THE STRIP STUCK? YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY ODD.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOVE OUR PAY GRADE, MAN.

IF SOMEBODY REMEMBERS WHAT HAPPENED.

SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE AREA THAT THAT WAS ANNEXED THERE.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY THE PROPERTY IS AT THIS TIME.

BUT IT'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL. RIGHT? SO TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST, WE HAVE MULTIFAMILY.

THE ONE IN THE ORANGE. TO THE WEST WE HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY.

YEAH. BUT IT'S IT'S TOO NARROW FOR A MULTIFAMILY.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT. AT THIS TIME, IT WOULD REQUIRE A VARIANCE TO THE LOT WIDTH.

THE LOT WIDTH FOR MULTIFAMILY IS AT THE VERY LEAST 80FT.

YEAH. DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE LAYOUT AS TO WHERE THE.

IT'S THERE WHERE THE TRASH BINS ARE GOING TO GO.

SEASON MADE IT A A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN THAT IS ON YOUR SCREEN.

AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.

LET ME SEE. THAT'S THE ONE WHERE THE TRASH BINS ARE.

I DON'T SEE IT AT THIS TIME.

THEY DON'T SHOW IT ON THERE.

THEY DON'T HAVE A SPOT FOR IT. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE'VE LOOKED AT THESE, THE TRASH IS VERY IMPORTANT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PICK UP.

AND THEN, YES, THIS IS THE SAME SITE PLAN THAT WAS INTRODUCED WHEN IT WAS LAST SEEN.

YEAH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD RECOMMENDED THAT THEY DO IS THAT THEY GIVE US A BETTER SITE PLAN, BUT THEY DID NOT DO THAT.

AND WE RECOMMEND DENIAL BACK THEN.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING DENIED IT, BUT THEN THEY NEVER WENT TO THE COMMISSION. IT NEVER EVEN PULLED IT. YEAH, HE PULLED THE ITEM FROM PULLED THE ITEM. I MEAN, WHAT'S GOING TO HELP US UNDERSTAND IS HOW YOU CAN FIT EVERYTHING. THIS IS JUST A FOOTPRINT.

THAT'S ALL YOU'RE LOOKING AT? THE FOOTPRINT WE GOT. SORRY.

I KNOW, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

GO AHEAD. SIR. MY NAME IS LUIS MENDEZ.

THE PROJECT ENGINEER. PERSPECTIVE OF THE OWNER.

SO WE HAD A PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED THAT THAT REZONING CHANGE FOR THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY.

[B. Consider the Rezoning Request from Agriculture and Open Space (AO) District to Residential,]

I KNOW IT'S TOO NARROW.

WE HAD A DIFFERENT LAYOUT.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT POSSIBLE WAYS THAT WE CAN DEVELOP THIS NARROW STRIP OF LAND FOR FOR THIS LANDOWNER. SO WE HAD THE THE PREVIOUS LAYOUT, WHICH THE ONLY ACCESS AND PARKING LOT.

IT WAS THROUGH THE NORTH, WHICH IS THE ALL OF THE AXIS FOR THE MULTIFAMILY IS HAPPENING.

NOT TRYING TO HAVE SOME AXIS MAINLY ALONG THE THE WISCONSIN ROAD BECAUSE DUE OF TRAFFIC AND IT'S TOO, TOO SHORT TO THE NEAREST INTERSECTION.

SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME CONFLICT.

PLUS THERE'S SOME IRRIGATION LINES AND WATER LINES IN THE FRONT.

SO THERE'S A BIG GAP THAT WE CAN'T USE AND HAS TO BE LEFT ALONE FOR A, BETTER FOR THE UTILITIES.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO OBSTRUCT THOSE, THOSE THINGS.

SO OUR PREVIOUS PLAN WAS HAVING ALL THE ACCESS THROUGH THE NORTH EXIT WITH THE PARKING PARKING LOT ALONG THE DAVID LANE AND DAVID LANE HAVING THAT ACCESS TRASH BINS AS WELL, HAVING THAT ACCESS FOR THE TRASH BINS ON THAT BACK SIDE, RATHER ANYTHING ON THE FRONT.

SO THE THE FACING OR THE UNITS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TO, TO DO ON THIS TRIP, IT WOULD BE A TYPICAL ONE ONE STRIP OF UNITS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE LIKE AROUND 40 TO 47FT IN WIDTH, AND IT CAN RUN UP TO A MAXIMUM.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO GIVE US UP TO 300FT OF BUILDABLE AREA.

HOW MANY UNITS TOTAL ARE YOU PLANNING? THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE EITHER WE CAN DO IT WITH ONE SINGLE UNIT, ONE DUAL UNIT THAT HAS MULTIPLE APARTMENTS.

HOW MANY DOORS? THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE AROUND 7 TO 10, 7 TO 10, 7 TO 10. AND IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE AROUND A 40 BY 40 SQUARE FOOT AREA.

SINGLE, SINGLE STOREY, SINGLE STOREY, SINGLE STOREY.

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YEAH. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR YOU.

HAVE A STREET ON BOTH ENDS.

THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, RIGHT? YEAH. SO.

AND THE INTENTION IS LAST TIME THE CONCERN WAS PRIVACY.

PRIVACY AND TRAFFIC FLOW.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO MITIGATE THOSE CONCERNS BY REROUTING THE TRAFFIC FLOW FOR THE EXISTING ACCESS ON DAVIS, WHICH IS NORTH SIDE AND AND THE PRIVACY.

THE UNITS WILL WILL BE MAINLY FACING TOWARDS THE EAST SIDE.

SO ON THE EAST SIDE YOU WILL HAVE A LONG STRIP OF SIDEWALK FOR, FOR THE RESIDENTS TO GO BACK AND FORTH FROM THE PARKING LOT AND OVER TO THEIR UNIT.

SO AND, AND THE FRONT IS JUST GOING TO BE LIKE A NICE I DON'T KNOW, LIKE THE, THE, THE, THE FACING OF THE, THE WHOLE UNITS AND IT'S JUST GOING TO BE FENCE AND GREEN AREA. YEAH.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE AND WE'RE DOING SOMETHING TYPICAL ON CITY OF FAR AS WELL. WE HAVE THE SAME SCENARIO.

IT WAS A TOO NARROW OF A OF A TRACK.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE, WE WERE ABLE TO FIT.

WAS A THAT'S A SINGLE UNIT OF COURSE, THAT THAT ONE HAD A MORE ACCESS FOR, FOR DRIVES. SO WE HAD THE DRIVES RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT.

BUT ON THIS ONE WE DON'T HAVE IT.

SO WE'RE JUST PUSHING IT TO THE, TO THE NORTH.

I'M SORRY SIR, YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU SIR. CAN I ASK SOMETHING REAL QUICK? ON THE UNIT, SIR.

HOW BIG ARE THEY GOING TO BE? ONE BEDROOMS? YEAH. NO. 40 BY 40. YOU CAN GIVE YOU 2 TO 3 BEDROOMS. OKAY. HEY, MY NAME IS LAURA SANCHEZ, AND I'M HERE TO PROTEST AGAINST IT BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF APARTMENTS IN THAT AREA, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS ALREADY VERY CONGESTED.

THEY DON'T HAVE. THEY'RE LIKE THEY SAID, IT'S VERY NARROW.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO USE WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING THAT THAT BACK ROAD, IT'S ONLY ONE ROAD AND ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.

THAT'S A HAZARD ALREADY.

WE HAVE. WHERE WE HAVE FLOODING ALREADY WITH THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE THERE.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT MORE FLOODING.

YOU ALL HAVE UNDER YOUR 11.103.

THE PURPOSE OF THE CODE IS TO LESSEN CONGESTION OF STREETS.

SECURITY AND SAFETY. FIRE, PANIC AND OTHER DANGERS.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET.

IF WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY IN THERE AND YOU ONLY HAVE ONE ROAD GOING IN AND OUT, THAT'S A BIG HAZARD RIGHT THERE.

AND WE'RE ACROSS THE HIGH SCHOOL.

I'M SORRY I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

AND IT'S ALSO TO PREVENT OVERCROWDING OF LAND.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 38 APARTMENT BUILDINGS IN THERE ALREADY.

NOW TO ADD MORE. THAT'S OVERCROWDING.

THAT'S A HAZARD NOT ONLY FOR THE THE US LIVING THERE, BUT FOR THE THE SCHOOL.

CAN I GET YOUR NAME, PLEASE, FOR NORA SANCHEZ? THANK YOU. WHERE DO YOU. WHERE DO YOU LIVE, MISS SANCHEZ? I LIVE IN THE CITY, BUT MY. I HAVE PROPERTY, I HAVE PROPERTY.

ARE YOU THE NEIGHBOR? YES.

ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS PROPERTY, MA'AM. I AM NUMBER.

I DON'T SEE IT FROM HERE. SORRY. I KNOW THERE'S LIKE A WHITE HOUSE NEXT TO IT, I THINK. YEAH, THAT'S MY SISTER IN LAW. SHE'S HERE TOO. I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE.

OKAY, SO YOU WOULD BE RIGHT NEXT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT? YES, YES. SO WE HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S TOO MANY.

TOO MANY APARTMENTS. NOT ENOUGH ONE STREET.

NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR CARS TO COME IN AND OUT.

AND NOW YOU'RE ADDING MORE CONGESTION TO THAT AREA BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, THEY HAVE IT CLOSE TO WHERE THEY CANNOT USE THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THE OTHER NEIGHBORS ARE AT, THAT THEY ALSO WENT AGAINST IT.

THEY HAVE IT GATED OFF.

SO THE IN AND OUT IS GOING TO BE THAT ONE STREET THAT COMES OUT OF THE OF THE APARTMENTS. SO THAT IS OUR CONCERN.

WE ALREADY HAVE WHERE WE HAVE KIDS CROSSING THROUGH OUR PROPERTIES AND WE HAVE.

YES. I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.

THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY AND THEN BEHIND IT, THE ONE ROAD THAT YOU THAT YOU TALK ABOUT.

YES. IS THAT A GATED PRIVATE ROAD OR IS THAT A DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S A GATE, THE THERE'S A GATE ON THE WEST SIDE ON BOTH ENDS TO GET INTO AURORA LANE.

IS THAT A PRIVATE ROAD? THERE'S THERE'S A I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NAME OF IT AND I CAN'T SEE IT. THEY DIDN'T GIVE ME THE COPY OF THE BACK, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU.

BUT THE ONE THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE WHERE THERE'S SOME APARTMENTS THERE, IT'S GATED OFF. SO THERE IS NO I BELIEVE AURORA LANE IS PUBLIC.

THE ONLY ONE THAT IS CUT OFF IS BETWEEN NORTH GOING NORTH AND SOUTH BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME APARTMENTS THERE. YES.

I DO RECALL THAT THEY DID GO THROUGH A VARIANCE FOR THE USE OF THE APARTMENTS.

AND ONE OF THE CONDITIONS ON THE VARIANCE WAS THAT TO NOT HAVE TRAFFIC ONTO WISCONSIN BETWEEN BAY LAFLEUR WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GATED THAT AREA.

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SO THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN AND OUT, AND IT'S NOT VERY BIG.

THERE'S ONLY ONE EXIT.

YES. AND IF YOU SEE THE PROPERTY, IT'S VERY NARROW.

THAT'S AN INJUSTICE. WHEN THE BUS GOES IN TO DROP OFF THE KIDS THEY, THEY GO IN AND THEN THEY HAVE TO BACK UP LIKE IT'S VERY THERE'S NO TURNING.

SO YOU CAN YOU CAN YOU STATE YOUR HAZARD THERE.

YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN A CAN WE GET HER NAME TO PLEASE.

NORMA. NORMA SANCHEZ. THANK YOU.

YEAH. THE BUS GOES IN.

I'VE NOTICED IT. IT GOES IN AND THEN IT HAS TO BACK UP.

IT CAN'T. IT DOESN'T HAVE A TURNAROUND OR ANYTHING.

IT'S TOO NARROW. YEAH. AND THE KIDS ARE GETTING OFF.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE APARTMENTS RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

ALL APARTMENTS AROUND IT.

ON THE SIDE WHERE THE OPEN.

WHERE THE OPEN EASEMENT IS FOR THEM TO GO TO THE BACK IS TOO NARROW.

SO NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT IF WE HAVE SOMETHING MAJOR GOING OVER THERE, THERE'S NOT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO IN.

THAT'S A HAZARD NOT ONLY FOR THE CITIZENS THERE, BUT ALSO FOR THE STUDENTS ACROSS THE STREET AND FOR THE SCHOOL.

AND THAT'S AN INVESTMENT. EDINBURGH HAS DONE.

AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS JUST I'M SORRY.

IT SHOULD BE CLOSED. AND YOU ALL HAVE IT HERE ON YOUR WEBSITE.

WHAT, YOUR PLANNING OBJECTIVES ARE, AND.

OVERCROWDING IS ONE. SAFETY FOR THE STREET, CONGESTION IS ANOTHER TO LESSEN IT.

THAT'S NOT LESSENING IT. THAT'S JUST ADDING TO THE PROBLEM.

I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS SANCHEZ.

THANK YOU. I. DIDN'T REALLY KNOW ABOUT THIS ONE, BUT I HAVE YOU ALL CONSIDERED THE FIRE TRUCKS.

WHEN A FIRE TRUCK GOES IN, WE'VE GONE OUT AND MEASURED OUR SEAN WOULD LET US CHECK THE TRUCKS.

THEY COULD NOT OPEN IF THERE'S ANY PARKING OR ANYTHING ON THE SIDE.

SO YOU WANT THESE PEOPLE'S APARTMENTS? WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM TO BURN DOWN WITH THE KIDS AND PEOPLE INSIDE BECAUSE THE TRUCKS CAN'T GET IN THERE.

THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO TO LOOK AT ALSO IN DIFFERENT ONES.

BECAUSE. HAVE YOU SEEN THE FIRE TRUCKS? I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE BIG.

THEY'RE NOT LIKE A CAR. AND IF THERE HAPPENS TO BE ANY PARKING THAT SHOULDN'T BE PARKING WHERE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK AND THAT FIRE TRUCK NEEDS TO GET IN.

AND SEAN ALWAYS SAID HE'D BUST THE GLASS OUT AND PUT THE HOSE THROUGH THE CAR WINDOW.

BUT WHY SHOULD THEY HAVE TO DO THAT TO TRY TO SAVE THESE PEOPLE? SO THINK ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE FLOOR COMMISSION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY IT BASED ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.

SECOND IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

[C. Consider the Rezoning Request from Residential, Suburban (RS) District to Commercial, General]

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM EIGHT C, WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE REZONING REQUEST FROM RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN DISTRICT TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT.

THE NORTH 100FT OF THE SOUTH, 235FT OF THE WEST, 330FT OF LOT TEN KELLY FARR SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 3120 SOUTH SUGAR ROAD.

STAFF. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTH SUGAR ROAD.

THE PROPERTY HAS A TOTAL FRONTAGE OF 100FT ALONG SUGAR ROAD.

IT HAS A TOTAL AREA OF 0.76 ACRES, AND THE REQUESTED ZONING DESIGNATION IS THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT.

THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR A WIDE RANGE OF COMMERCIAL USES.

THE LOT IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A ZONE CHANGE TO ESTABLISH A PHYSICAL THERAPY SPECIALTY CLINIC AT THIS LOCATION. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

ADJACENT LAND USE CONSISTS OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.

THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS FOR URBAN USES.

STAFF MAILED A NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TO 32 NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS IN FAVOR OR AGAINST.

AT THIS TIME, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THE REQUEST.

BASED ON ADJACENT ZONING, DISTRICT, AND LAND USE.

AT THIS TIME, THE EAST SIDE OF SUGAR ROAD IS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

IF APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS DURING THE PERMITTING PROCESS. AND THEY'RE TRYING TO DO A DAYCARE, A PHYSICAL THERAPY THERAPY.

THANK YOU. I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM. NO COMMENTS. I'LL GO TO CLOSE THE FLOOR COMMISSION AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDING DENIAL.

AND WHAT'S THE BASIS? SO BASED ON ADJACENT LAND USE CURRENTLY WE DO HAVE SOME SINGLE FAMILY RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

I THINK THERE'S I MEAN, THERE'S EXISTING HOMES LIKE THE OTHER ALL OTHER THREE LOTS OR ALL HAVE HOUSES ON THEM.

CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL, BUT THERE'S A ACROSS THE STREET.

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IT'S ALL COMMERCIAL. RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IN THE RED.

WE DO HAVE COMMERCIAL.

YEAH, ALL OF IT IS. YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

YEAH. THAT'S WHERE THAT MANUSCRIPTS THAT ARE PROPERTY THAT, THAT THAT'S THAT'S CURRENTLY RESIDENTIAL, SUBURBAN WHICH IS A LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY. AND THERE'S A NEW SUBDIVISION COMING IN.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT. TO THE EAST, WHICH IS ALSO SINGLE FAMILY AND THE PHYSICAL.

AND THEN, SORRY, ACROSS THE STREET YOU HAVE THE OIL AND THE ACROSS THE STREET.

AND THEN THERE'S THE DOLLAR GENERAL, THERE'S A DOLLAR GENERAL PRINTING SHOP. ECON CONSTRUCTION. YEAH. GOT IT.

YEAH. THERE'S COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE STREET ON THE EAST SIDE.

ON THE WEST SIDE. ON THE WEST SIDE.

I'M SORRY. WEST SIDE, WEST SIDE AND FURTHER DOWN SOUTH.

AND THEN THIS PROPERTY HAS RESIDENTIAL NORTH OF IT AND I GUESS SOUTH OF IT TOO.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT. AND THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THEY WANT TO PUT.

IS THERE QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC FOR A PHYSICAL THERAPY CLINIC? IT MAY IT COULD ALSO BE IN A COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING DISTRICT AS WELL.

ARE THEY PLANNING TO USE THE SAME BUILDING THAT'S THERE? THEY'RE GOING TO KNOCK IT DOWN.

PROBABLY. I WOULD NEED TO.

I WOULD NEED TO GET FURTHER CLARIFICATION FROM THE APPLICANT.

AND NOBODY'S HERE TO SPEAK ON IT.

THE LIKELIHOOD IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KNOCK IT DOWN BECAUSE A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE DOESN'T MEET THE THE BUILDING CODES FOR A BUSINESS.

SO YEAH, IT WOULD BE A TEAR DOWN.

EITHER THAT OR IT WOULD REQUIRE A LOT OF RETROFITTING AND THEN THEY COULD BUILD ANYTHING THERE. THAT'S GENERAL COMMERCIAL. NOBODY YOU COULD DO ANYTHING.

AND AND THE REASON THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AGAINST IT IS BECAUSE THERE'S STILL THREE HOMES NEXT TO THIS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.

YOU'RE RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT MORE COMMERCIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT ON THIS SIDE. AND THEN THERE'S THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT BEHIND IT THAT THEY HAVEN'T EVEN FINISHED. RIGHT. YEAH.

ALEX. WE NEVER WE DIDN'T GET ANY LETTERS.

NO. OPPOSED FOR OR AGAINST.

YEAH. NO. NO COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU CAN PUT ANYTHING THERE NOW IF YOU OWN IT. YEAH. SHE'S OWN COMMERCIAL.

YEAH. IT CAN BE ANYTHING WE HAVE TO OPEN IT FOR COMMENTS OR NO, NOBODY, NO, NOBODY CAME UP.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TO DENY IT BASED ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND, THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO. IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

MR.. WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO GET THE MOTION FROM MR. OLIVARES FOR APPROVAL? OKAY. YEAH. ITEM EIGHT D WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE REZONING REQUEST FROM

[D. Consider the Rezoning Request from Residential, Primary (RP) District to Residential,]

RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY DISTRICT.

IS THAT. WAIT, WAIT. HOLD ON.

YEAH. APPROVING OR DENYING IT? WE ALL VOTED TO DENY. OKAY, I APOLOGIZE.

WE ALL VOTE. VOTE TO DENY.

VOTE TO DENY. 707. OKAY, SO FOR THE RECORD.

UNANIMOUS DENIAL. UNANIMOUS.

OKAY. SEVEN ZERO. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ALONG.

ITEM EIGHT D CONSIDER THE REZONING REQUEST FROM RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY DISTRICT TO RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.

LOT FIVE, BLOCK 5:00 125 TOWN SIDE OF EDINBURG LOCATED AT 406 WEST VAN WEEK STREET.

COMMISSION. CHAIRMAN. STAFF.

THANK YOU. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST VAN VLIET STREET.

THE PROPERTY HAS A TOTAL FRONTAGE OF 50FT ALONG WEST VAN STREET AND A TOTAL LOT AREA OF 7100FT². THE REQUESTED ZONING DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, WHICH ALLOWS FOR VARIOUS MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.

THIS LOT IS CURRENTLY VACANT, AND THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A ZONE CHANGE TO ESTABLISH A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AT THIS LOCATION.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. IT IS INTENDED TO PERMIT A WIDE RANGE OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.

ADJACENT LAND CONSISTS OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.

THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS FOR URBAN UNIVERSITY USES.

AT THIS TIME, THE PROPERTY DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF 80FT FOR DUPLEX OR MULTIPLEX, OR THE MINIMUM LOT AREA OF 8000FT².

THE NOTICE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO 42 NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE RECEIVE NO COMMENTS IN FAVOR, AND WE RECEIVED ONE AGAINST THE REQUEST AFTER THE REPORT WAS PREPARED.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THE REQUEST BASED ON ADJACENT LAND USE.

IF APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS DURING THE PERMITTING PROCESS, INCLUDING ASKING FOR A VARIANCE.

I'M SORRY, INCLUDING ASKING FOR A VARIANCE.

YES, THEY NEED TO COMPLY TO 50 FOOT.

YEAH. THANK YOU. I'LL GO AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

STEP UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. PAUL VANILLA HERE.

THIS IS MY FIRST TIME, SO YOU MIGHT HAVE TO EXCUSE ME.

BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MODERNIZE A LITTLE BIT THE APARTMENTS USAGE FOR THE UNIVERSITY. WE'RE TRYING TO.

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WE'RE ABOUT TWO BLOCKS FROM UTRGV.

SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS NOT THE OLD TYPE OF APARTMENTS THAT YOU SEE AROUND UTRGV, BUT A LITTLE MORE MODERN TO BRING MORE TO THE CITY OF EDINBURGH.

I THINK WE DESERVE, WITH SO MUCH INJECTION THAT WE ARE HAVING AT UTRGV, GETTING SO, SO MUCH BIGGER AND BIGGER.

WE SEE EVERY SEMESTER IS GROWING TREMENDOUSLY.

I THINK WE DESERVE TO HAVE IT A LITTLE MORE.

A STEP UP ON THE PROPERTIES THAT SERVE UTRGV AREA.

THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF OUR CONSTRUCTION HERE.

WE WERE WE PURCHASED THE THE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THAT, SEEING WHAT THE FUTURE HAS BEEN IN OTHER UNIVERSITIES, IN OTHER LARGER CITIES, AND I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE THAT WAY SOONER OR LATER. THE INTENTION IS TO TRY TO MAKE A LITTLE WITH THE VARIANCES THAT WE NEED TO APPLY FOR. TRY TO GET THOSE APPROVED SO WE CAN DO JUST THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THE QUESTION IS CAN THEY GET A VARIANCE.

IS THE QUESTION SOMEBODY ELSE. AND I'M SORRY.

I WILL ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT THERE ARE OTHER MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS ABOUT A BLOCK FROM OUR PROPERTY IN ONE WEEK ALSO.

SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR SOMETHING NEW.

THERE ARE THERE ARE SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY MULTIFAMILY.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU.

NORA SANCHEZ AGAIN. I'M JUST ASKING THE THE COMMITTEE HERE TO LOOK AT ALL THE ASPECTS WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN TO WANTING TO DO A MULTIFAMILY, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT HAS TO DO WITH CROWDING AND SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT I DON'T KNOW THIS PROPERTY, BUT I HEAR THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TRYING JUST TO BUY PLACES AND MAKE APARTMENTS, AND THEY'RE TOO SMALL.

YET THAT CAUSES A HAZARD FOR OUR CITIZENS.

AND THAT INCLUDES ME AND YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS HUTCHINSON.

YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? MR.. ARE THESE THE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST? YES. JUST JUST TO ADD A LITTLE COMMENT THE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY, WE'LL ALSO NEED AN ACCESS ON THE ALLEY SO IT DOESN'T TAKE AT ALL ANY INCREASE ON THE ON THE TRAFFIC THAT YOU WILL HAVE IS TOO SMALL.

THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE HANDLING IS WAY TOO SMALL TO AFFECT ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS OR ANY OF THE CITY TRAFFIC AT ALL.

WE'VE SEEN THE TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE AT UTRGV AND IT'S BIG ENOUGH.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST GET IT CLOSER TO THE UNIVERSITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MARTIN.

CAN YOU TELL US HOW MANY UNITS OR HOW MANY? WHILE AGO YOU MENTIONED DOORS? SO CAN YOU. I CAN'T TELL FROM THAT LITTLE PICTURE.

LOOKS LIKE FOUR UNITS.

FOUR? YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

AGAIN, JUST LIKE THIS LADY AND MYSELF.

WE'RE BOTH CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESIDENTS.

WE'VE LIVED HERE. I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE I WAS NINE.

AND BELIEVE ME, I AM OLD.

AND WE'RE ALWAYS WANTING TO LIVE IN EDINBURGH.

WE WANT TO HAVE OUR PROPERTY, OUR HOMES.

SO EACH TIME I SEE THE RESIDENTS AND THEN YOU'RE CHANGING TO MULTI.

THAT'S NOT EDINBURGH. WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN A FRIENDLY TOWN.

SO ANYWAY, I JUST HOPE YOU'LL LOOK AT THESE THINGS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING TO TO CHANGE.

BECAUSE HOW WOULD YOU LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS BUILT NEXT TO YOUR HOME? I'M SURE YOU ALL LIVE.

DON'T YOU KNOW THAT? AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, THEN YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK AND STEP UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE. I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFECTING THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE AROUND THAT AREA. AN EXAMPLE IS TREVINO ELEMENTARY.

ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAD ALL THESE, THIS EXPLOSION OF FOURPLEX THAT CAME UP.

AND THAT WAS A STRESS ON OUR SCHOOL.

AND I USED TO WORK THERE. THAT'S WHY I'M TELLING YOU, I, I DON'T KNOW THESE PLACES, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BUYING UP JUST TO MAKE APARTMENTS. AND I UNDERSTAND THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY, BUT IT'S OUR CITIZENS FIRST.

THAT'S YOUR YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AND MINE TO SPEAK UP.

SO PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

YES, WE WANT OUR OUR CITY TO GROW.

BUT HOW DO WE WANT IT TO GROW?

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DO WE WANT IT TO GROW CORRECTLY, OR DO WE WANT TO HAVE A HAZARD? AND THEN YOU ALL WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL DUE RESPECT, I THINK WE WE WENT THROUGH THAT WHEN WE ALLOWED UTRGV TO GROW SO MUCH.

SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S TIME ENOUGH TO, TO LET THE NEARBY AREAS GROW A LITTLE MORE.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I HAVE FOUR KIDS THAT GO TO UT SO THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE AND THEIR FRIENDS DON'T HAVE PLACES WHERE TO STAY NEARBY.

SO I ALL I'M ASKING IS THE AREA THAT IS CLOSE TO UTRGV THAT HAS DEVELOPED SO MUCH.

LET IT GROW AS WHAT THE UNIVERSITY IS GROWING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THE THE LAYOUT, WOULD THAT BE ALLOWABLE? IT LOOKS LIKE LIKE THE PARKING WOULD BE DIRECTLY OR THE ACCESS WOULD BE RIGHT ONTO THE STREET. SO ESSENTIALLY BACK UP INTO THE STREET LIKE THAT.

CORRECT. WE WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR THEM TO ADJACENTLY JUST BACK UP RIGHT INTO THE STREET RIGHT AWAY. THE SITE PLAN IS PRELIMINARY.

RIGHT NOW. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE LAND USE.

BUT BASED OFF OF WHAT I'M SEEING HERE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME TYPES OF VARIANCES. IT WOULD BE FOR THE LOT WIDTH.

RIGHT. NORMAL LOT WIDTH FOR MULTIFAMILY IS 80.

RIGHT NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF 50 BY 142.

SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT THAT WERE MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE OTHER MULTI-FAMILIES THAT ARE ON TWO LOTS.

A LOT OF THEM NORMALLY, YES. SO IT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 100.

YEAH, YEAH. MOST OF THEM ARE ON TWO LOTS.

YES. THE USE OF THE ALLEYWAY WE HAVE ALLOWED IT.

I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT THAT. YES, WE HAVE ALLOWED THE USE OF THE ALLEYWAY.

THE ONLY THING IS, IS THAT WE REQUIRE THAT THEY PAVE THE ALLEYWAY UP TO THE FARTHEST POINT OF THEIR PROPERTY LINE TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO EITHER PUT CONCRETE SLAB OR ASPHALT ASPHALT CONCRETE ASPHALT.

WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE IF YOU WERE TO DO LIKE A DUPLEX VERSUS A FOURPLEX? IS IT THE SAME ZONING? IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE SAME ZONING, YES, BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR MULTIFAMILY.

WHAT'S A LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY? THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, 80FT, 80 BY 100.

OKAY, SO WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THIS? 7000. 7100FT². 70. 100.

IT'S 50 BY ONE. 42 7400 OR SO.

7000. SO AS AND AGAIN, THAT'S GREAT.

THE LOT IS 7100FT². YEAH.

IF HE OWNS THAT LOT. AND AGAIN, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING NOT TO CHANGE IT.

BUT JUST FYI IT IS 50 BY 140.

AND I LIVED THERE WHEN I TAUGHT AT SAM HOUSTON WAY BACK WHEN.

RIGHT. YES. LOTS. AND THE DEMOGRAPHICS BECAUSE OF THE UNIVERSITY I UNDERSTAND, SIR, IS GROWTH. SO? SO BACK WHEN I WAS DOING REAL ESTATE FULL TIME AND I WOULD COME TALK TO THE CITY, ALL THAT GENERAL AREA.

WHO WAS IN THE MASTER PLAN THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE MULTIFAMILY AND BACK AGAIN.

WHEN I WAS DOING REAL ESTATE, I WAS REPRESENTING THE UNIVERSITY AND TRYING TO TAKE DOWN A BUNCH OF PROPERTY FOR FOR PARKING NOW, RIGHT. BUT BACK TO AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GUIDE THESE PEOPLE, BUT ON A 50 BY 142, IF YOU DRIVE BY THERE, YOU CAN DO A TRIPLEX, RIGHT? NOT NOT A FOURPLEX JUST JUST FYI.

WELL, FOR A TRIPLEX IT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO FOR THE MULTIFAMILY ZONING, RIGHT? IT'S EITHER HE'S ASKING FOR MULTIFAMILY ZONING.

IT'S IT'S EITHER TWO UNITS OR MORE.

AND WE HAVE SOME NEW ONES.

THE ON THE CORNER OF SIXTH AND VAN I THINK IT'S A DUPLEX.

AND THEN THERE'S A SEVEN PLEX.

AND I WAS INVOLVED ON COON AND WHERE THERE'S BUT IT'S BACK TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

IT WAS TWO LOTS. SO IT'S 100 BY 142.

CORRECT. AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET A SEVEN PLEX IN THERE.

RIGHT. THE AREA. THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THIS AREA IS URBAN UNIVERSITY, WHICH ALLOWS FOR YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES AND THEN AS WELL AS HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY. BUT THAT'S WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. I KNOW WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE CHANGE WITH OUR COMP PLAN TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.

SO SO IF THAT'S THE PLAN FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL BASED ON BASED ON THE SURROUNDING USES. SO YOU DO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. ALEX, CAN YOU PULL UP THE ZONING MAP? THERE YOU GO.

YOU DO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES ALL ALONG THAT BLOCK ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND ON THE NORTH SIDE. SO YOU DO HAVE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITHIN THE AREA, MULTIFAMILY. YOU START SEEING IT ON THE CLOSER TO BEHIND IT ON TRACKS EIGHT.

THAT IS MULTIFAMILY. YES.

THE ORANGE TO THE WEST.

YES. SO IN THAT AREA AND THEN ALSO JUST BECAUSE THE THE SIZE OF THE LOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NORMALLY SEEING THE 50 BY 142 FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY.

GOT TO BUY THE BUY THE LOT NEXT TO IT.

THESE ARE ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS.

OR IS IT TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS? IS THAT TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT? OKAY, SO TWO BEDROOMS WOULD ESSENTIALLY ASKS FOR

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TWO PARKING SPACES FOR EACH DOOR.

AND THERE ARE TWO STORIES.

THE MORE UNITS YOU PUT ON THERE, THE MORE PARKING SPACES IS REQUIRED. OKAY.

YOU WANT TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM? THANK YOU.

OKAY. JUST PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME. WELL, ORIGINALLY WE HAD CAME IN WITH A PLAN AND THERE WERE JUST TWO OF THEM.

BUT WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH THE PEOPLE IN ZONING, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE COULD PUT FOUR AND WE COULD USE THE ALLEY.

SO WE CHANGED TO FOUR APARTMENTS.

BUT I MEAN, WE'RE OPEN TO TO ANY CHANGE TO ANYTHING THAT WE GOT TO DO IN ORDER TO APPLY AND TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THIS, AS MY HUSBAND WAS TELLING YOU.

WE'VE GOT FOUR KIDS IN UNIVERSITY, ONE STUDYING MED SCHOOL, AND HAS A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT ARE FROM ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES, AND THEY'RE HAVING A LOT OF TROUBLE TO FIND SOMETHING NEAR THE UNIVERSITY WITH GOOD QUALITY IN ORDER FOR THEM TO, TO TO LIVE, TO STUDY THEIR STUDYING 24 OVER SEVEN. AND THEY, THEY WANT TO HAVE A NICE PLACE AROUND AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND IT. I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO GO FARTHER FROM THE UNIVERSITY, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE COMMUTING EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND, I MEAN, IT'S A LOT OF HOURS.

THEY'VE GOT TO BE. SO THAT'S WHERE THE IDEA CAME UP OF TRYING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

I THINK THAT IDEA IS IS VALID, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THAT TO ME, THAT PROPERTY IS WAY TOO SMALL TO BE ABLE TO PUT FOUR UNITS ON THERE.

I MEAN, THAT'S MY OPINION.

BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT SOMETHING ELSE COULDN'T FIT THERE.

BUT ONCE WE OPEN IT TO MULTIFAMILY, WE UNDERSTAND.

I MEAN, AS I TOLD YOU, WE STARTED WITH A DUPLEX.

WE STARTED WITH TWO APARTMENTS, AND THEY GAVE US THE IDEA TO PUT THE FOUR OF THEM. SO, I MEAN, WE COULD GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, BUT ANY, ANY WAY WE NEED FOR IT TO BE MULTIFAMILY IN ORDER TO PUT THE TWO, THE THREE OR THE FOUR.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LATER WORK WITH THE PEOPLE ON THE APPROVALS.

BUT FIRST IS THE CHANGE REDO AT THAT POINT, WOULD THEY STILL NEED THEY STILL NEED THE VARIANCE FOR THE FOR THE LOT WIDTH.

RIGHT. CORRECT. BECAUSE FOR THE TWO UNITS THEY WOULD NEED TO ACTUALLY IF THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO DIFFERENT UNITS ON TWO DIFFERENT METERS WITH THE PARKING SPACES, THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS. SO IN THE FRONT ONE UNIT IN THE BACK ONE'S GOT ACCESS FROM, FROM THE ALLEYWAY, ONE'S GOT ACCESS FROM THE FRONT. SO WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF LEANING TOWARDS IS MORE IS LIKE THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME WITH THE ADU ATTACHED IN THE BACK.

CORRECT. RIGHT. BUT THERE'S SOME STIPULATIONS ON THAT, RIGHT? IT HAS TO BE FAMILY MEMBER. THEY HAVE TO BE ON THE SAME WATER METER.

THE ELECTRICAL METER. SO THAT'S THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

SO RITA CURRENTLY WE HAVE SO SO IT'S THE ORIGINAL TOWN SITE THERE 50 BY 142.

MOST OF THE BOARDS ARE 50 BY 140 ON 50 BY 142 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

NO, NO MULTIFAMILY. SO WE CAN DRIVE OVER THERE AND THERE'S WHAT A TRIPLEX FITS ON 50 BY 142. YEAH. HOW HOW SINCE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS TO BE FOR MULTIFAMILY AND SMALL BUSINESSES BECAUSE OF THE UNIVERSITY, HOW DOES SOMEBODY BUY ONE OF THESE LOTS WHEN WE HAVE THESE REGULATIONS? AND THE UDC, WHICH SAYS THAT IT'S GOT TO BE 80 FOOT WIDE WHEN NONE OF THESE ARE 80 FOOT WIDE, IT PROBABLY THEY'RE CONFLICTING THAT THEY WENT THROUGH THE VARIANCE PROCESS FOR THE LOT WIDTH AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS ON THE 50 BY 142.

RIGHT. WHAT WE HAVE WHAT'S OUT THERE AND I'LL DRIVE BY AFTERWARDS.

BUT BUT I THINK THERE'S EITHER A DUPLEX OR A TRIPLEX.

I THINK THERE'S QUITE A BIT ON THE VERY CORNER.

THERE'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A WHITE BUILDING AND THERE'S A FOURPLEX AND IT'S.

WELL. BUT IT MAY BE ON TWO LOTS.

YEAH. THE VERY CORNER USED TO BE THE FRAT HOUSE, AND THAT IS A BIGGER LOT.

THAT'S A BIGGER LOT. THIS IS 50 BY 142.

SO IN ORDER TO GO THROUGH AND GO THROUGH THE VARIANCE PROCESS.

BUT IF WE REJECTED TODAY, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE VARIANCE PROCESS. WE'RE JUST ADVISORY BOARD NOW.

IF THEY GO THROUGH THE VARIANCE PROCESS THE VARIANCE CAN BE APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS THE REZONING CAN'T. BUT IF THEY GO TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, THEY COULD LIMIT THEM TO DO A TRIPLEX.

SO WHEN THEY COME FOR THE WHEN THEY COME FOR THE NOT THE REZONING, WHEN THEY COME FOR THE VARIANCE, WE CAN SAY, HEY, IT'S GOT TO BE A DUPLEX, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. SO THEY SHOULD GO GET A VARIANCE FIRST.

THEY CAN'T GET A VARIANCE WITHOUT GETTING FIRST REZONING.

YEAH. YOU'RE KIND OF STUCK BETWEEN THE CONFLICT AND I'M TRYING TO BRING OUT HERE.

SO IF WE REJECT IT TODAY THEY DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY UNTIL CARPORT WITH HIS LOT WITH.

RIGHT. CORRECT. COME BACK AS MULTIFAMILY.

BUT THEY COULD COME BACK AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH THE ANOTHER ANOTHER ZONING.

IF THEY DO THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY LIKE RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY WITH THE ADU. TECHNICALLY, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, AND THAT WOULD ONLY ALLOW FOR TWO.

BUT THERE'S STIPULATIONS ON THAT. THEY COULD DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK. CORRECT.

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AND THE VARIANCE ISN'T THROUGH US.

NO, IT'S THROUGH THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. ZONING BOARD. SO. YEAH.

SO SO WE HAVE THAT SAFETY NET.

SO WHAT WE REJECTED HERE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT A WHOLE YEAR.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M BRINGING OUT HERE.

THE RECOMMENDING THE RECOMMENDATION RIGHT HERE. IF IT WAS TO BE FOR DENIAL, THE NEXT STEP WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL. RIGHT. IF IT GETS DENIED AT CITY COUNCIL THAT FROM THAT DAY, THAT'S WHERE THE 12 MONTH HAS TO COME INTO PLAY. BUT IT'S ONLY IF THEY'RE REQUESTING THE SAME ZONING CLASSIFICATION AS THEY'RE REQUESTING. NOW, IF THEY WERE TO CHANGE THEIR REQUEST TO MAYBE URBAN AND TOWNHOME, RIGHT. THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COME NEXT MONTH.

RIGHT. BUT IT'S ONLY IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE SAME ZONING CLASSIFICATION AS THEY WERE AT THE TIME. AND I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE WIDTH OF THAT OF THAT PROPERTY AND THAT IT DUMPS OUT ONTO ONTO A, A SUPER BUSY STREET.

I MEAN, THAT'S A THAT'S A CORRIDOR FOR THE UNIVERSITY.

SOMETHING TO LOOK AT ON THE MAP IS DOES THIS BELONG HERE? RIGHT. DOES THIS COLOR SCHEME MATCH WHAT'S IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TODAY. THERE ARE SEVERAL FOURPLEXES AROUND THERE, RIGHT? ON ON MORE THAN ONE LOT? YEAH. DOUBLE LOT ON DOUBLE LOTS.

WOULD YOU LIKE THAT? WOULD YOU GUYS WOULD BE AMENABLE TO DOING A DUPLEX VERSUS A FOURPLEX? YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. BUT ONCE YOU DO IT, ONCE YOU APPROVE IT, THEY CAN GO IN AND YOU STILL HAVE TO GET APPROVAL.

AND WE STILL HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE, EVEN IF IT'S A DUPLEX.

RIGHT? CORRECT. CORRECT. YES.

AND WE CANNOT PUT ANY STIPULATIONS ON THE NARROWNESS.

IT'S THE NARROWNESS OF THE OF THE PROPERTY THAT AFFECTS ME MORE.

YES. WE CANNOT PUT CONDITIONS ON THE ZONING. YOU CAN'T PUT CONDITIONS ON IT.

AND SO IT'S A. IT'S IT'S ALL NEIGHBORS.

GRACIAS. THANK YOU. YOU GOT TO BUY THE LOT NEXT DOOR.

I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

NOT PUBLIC, BUT YES. NOT EXACTLY PUBLIC.

BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE JUST THE COUNCIL AWARE THAT THAT DUE TO THERE WERE SOME MENTIONS OF POSSIBLY ANY WATER CONSERVATION.

AND THERE'S ALSO SOME ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO ADDITIONAL METERING. MY NAME IS PETER ALMEIDA. I'M THE DEVELOPER ENGINEER AS WELL. THAT JUST TO ALSO CONSIDER ONE OTHER THING TOO, IS THAT ADDITIONAL METERS DO ALSO PUT A LOT MORE STRAIN.

AND THAT ALSO MORE METERING DOES PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ISSUES WITH T-C-E-Q.

SO JUST ANOTHER ITEM THERE TO JUST ALSO PUT IN YOUR THOUGHT, JUST TO PUT INTO CONSIDERATION THERE FOR ANY ADDITIONAL DUPLEXES THAT ARE COMING IN.

SO IT'S JUST A JUST A THOUGHT THERE FOR FROM JUST ON THE UTILITY SIDE, JUST AS, AS WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE DO THE PROPER GROWTH, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO IN COMPLIANCE WITH ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL STATE ENTITIES. ARE WE HAVING WATER ISSUES RIGHT NOW? ABSOLUTELY. CERTAIN AREAS? YES. SO JUST SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU PETER. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR. I'LL JUST CLOSE THIS.

ONE MORE COMMENT. AND I KNOW IT WAS SAID THAT THE STUDENTS HAVE TO TRAVEL.

WE ALL HAVE TO TRAVEL WHEN WE GO TO SCHOOL.

I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. I'VE HAD TO TRAVEL TO MCALLEN AND BACK.

I'VE HAD TO TRAVEL OVER HERE AND BACK.

AND I WORKED. AND RIGHT AFTER WORK, I HAD LIKE TEN MINUTES TO GET OVER HERE, SO I HAD TO RUN. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HELPING THE STUDENTS? WE ALL HAD TO DO IT IN THE PAST.

THANK YOU MA'AM. I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE FLOOR COMMISSION.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION JUST FOR STAFF.

RITA, YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS SOMEBODY THAT WAS FOR.

BECAUSE ALL OF THESE ONES ARE AGAINST. THERE'S.

I'M NOT SURE. I'M NOT SURE.

ALEX. DID WE GET ANY THAT WERE FOR THIS ITEM? I HAVE ONLY ONE AD THAT'S AGAINST.

ONE IS AGAINST. OH, NO.

THERE'S ALL OF THEM. CHECK THE CHECK THE LETTER ON TOP.

WELL, THOSE ARE DIFFERENT LETTERS.

I BELIEVE THEY'RE FOR DIFFERENT ITEMS. THEY'RE JUST ALL STAPLED TOGETHER. OH.

YEAH. THE LAST ONE IS THE AD.

SO IT'S JUST ONE AGAINST.

YEAH. TO MY UNDERSTANDING. YES.

OKAY. PLEASE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE.

I ALREADY CLOSED PUBLIC COMMENT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY BASED ON STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. MOTION TO DENY.

WE HAVE A SECOND. EVERYBODY IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES FOUR TWO.

[10. CONSENT AGENDA]

I THINK WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THE

[A. Consider the Final Plat approval of Gem Estates Subdivision, being 26.356 Acres situtated in the]

[B. Consider the Final Plat approval of Oakview Center Subdivision, being a 28.35-acre tract of land]

CONSENT AGENDA? MOVE TO APPROVE A AND B SECOND.

[11. INFORMATION ONLY]

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, MR. ACEVEDO. YEAH. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO GO OVER UNDER OTHER BUSINESS FOR INFORMATION ONLY.

WE HAVE THE POSSIBLE ACTION OF APPROVING A CALENDAR.

TOWARDS THE END OF THE PACKET, THERE WAS A CALENDAR FOR THE REMAINING MEETINGS OF THE YEAR. AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAVE TWO MEETINGS IN AUGUST.

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SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO MEETINGS. BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE HOLIDAYS FALL IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER AND BECAUSE THE EDC MEETS IN THIS, IN THIS CHAMBERS AS WELL, ON TUESDAYS, WE'VE CHANGED THE DATES OF THE MEETINGS TO THURSDAYS FOR THE REMAINDER FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS FOR THIS COMMISSION. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO EITHER APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE.

SO I CAN MOVE TO THURSDAYS INSTEAD OF TUESDAYS AT ONE TIME FROM NOW, THE MEETING WOULD BE AT THE SAME TIME.

SO ONE, WE HAVE TWO MEETINGS PER ONE MONTH FROM NOW TO THE END OF THE YEAR ON TUESDAY.

AND THE SECOND ONE. NO. NO, THEY WOULD BOTH BE ON THURSDAY AND 530, NOT 430. CORRECT. 530.

RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'LL WORK OUT BETTER FOR ME TO THE END OF THE YEAR, TO THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THEN WE STILL HAVE TO DEVELOP THE CALENDAR FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. OKAY. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CALENDAR YET FOR WE DON'T HAVE A CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR. WELL, FOR THIS YEAR WAS IT WAS ATTACHED TO YOUR AGENDA.

SO ULTIMATELY WE'LL HAVE TWO MEETINGS FOR SEPTEMBER AND TWO MEETINGS FOR OCTOBER, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. BECAUSE THE SECOND MEETING FALLS DURING THE HOLIDAY PERIOD, WE WILL NOT BE HAVING A MEETING DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. IT'S ONLY JUST ONE ON NOVEMBER, ONE ON DECEMBER, AND THEN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER IS THE DOUBLE MEETING FOR THE THURSDAYS FOR THIS YEAR, TWO DOUBLE MEETINGS AND THEN AND THEN TWO MEETINGS. CORRECT. I'M OKAY WITH THAT ON THURSDAY, ON THURSDAY, ON THURSDAY.

AND AT 530 NOT FOUR 3530.

NO, THIS WAS A SPECIAL MEETING BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 06:00 FOR ANOTHER MEETING.

I'M OKAY WITH THAT. THAT WORKS FOR ME.

THAT'LL WORK. OKAY. THE OTHER ITEM OF DISCUSSION IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF DATES THAT ARE COMING UP FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THE FIRST ONE IS WITH THE CONSULTANT.

THEY WANT TO MEET WITH THIS BOARD SEPTEMBER THE 5TH, AND IT WOULD BE AT 530.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO GO OVER SOMETHING. WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THEY WANT TO GO OVER THE PROPOSED CHANGES FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WITH THIS BOARD. THEY'VE ALSO STARTED TO SEND US SECTIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN DRAFT FORM. SO I WILL BE EMAILING THOSE TO YOU LATE TOMORROW.

THEY'RE HAVING A MEETING WITH THE OTHER BOARDS THAT ARE THE STEERING COMMITTEE TOMORROW AT NOON. AND THEN AFTER THAT MEETING, I WAS TOLD THAT I COULD RELEASE THOSE TO ADMINISTRATION AND TO THE PNC BOARD.

SO IT'S THAT IT'S NOT A SEPTEMBER 5TH IS ON A THURSDAY AT 530.

OKAY. SO FIRST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.

CORRECT? CORRECT. IS IT DECEMBER 5TH? NO. SEPTEMBER SEPTEMBER 5TH.

OH, SO NEXT WEEK ON THURSDAY.

YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT WOULD BE ALL NEXT THURSDAY.

SO WE WOULD HAVE THE MEETING HERE. IT WOULD BE HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. CORRECT. AND THEN THE THE MEETING AFTER THAT WOULD BE FOR THE ACTUAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN APPROVAL OF THE, OF THE DRAFT. AND THAT WOULD BE OCTOBER THE 10TH.

IT WOULD ALSO BE AT 530.

WELL, WILL WE GET A PHONE CALL.

AND ACTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING AND HAVING OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PNC MEETING OCTOBER THE 10TH. OKAY.

SO IT'LL BE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA ON THAT DAY.

OKAY. SO WE'LL JUST GOING TO GET A NEW CALENDAR THEN.

WILL YOU EMAIL WILL YOU EMAIL US THE CALENDAR? YEAH I CAN EMAIL YOU THE CALENDAR TOMORROW PLEASE. OKAY. WE'LL ALSO PUT IT ON ON OUR ON OUR WEB PAGE. SO ARE WE MEETING OCTOBER 10TH OR WE'RE JUST GOING TO VOTE ON SOMETHING OCTOBER 10TH. RIGHT. WELL IT'S BOTH IT'S A REGULAR DNC MEETING.

IT SAID IT'S THE THURSDAY.

IT'S ON THE AGENDA. SO IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR APPROVAL? CORRECT I GUESS. SO NOW IT'LL BE SECOND THURSDAY AND FOURTH THURSDAY.

CORRECT. FOR THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS.

CORRECT. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY IF WE'VE ALL AGREED TO THE CALENDAR, WE DO NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.

TAKE A VOTE ON IT. YES, WE DO NEED TO TAKE A VOTE, SO I'LL SECOND IT. EVERYBODY IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. ALL WE HAVE.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION.

SECOND. SECOND. YOUR FAVOR.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIED. MEETING ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

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