[00:02:40] COME ON, MR. ELLIS. YEAH, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE RISE FOR PRAYER AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. LET US PRAY. [1. Call Meeting To Order, Establish Quorum] GOD OUR FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR HAVING CALLED US TOGETHER. THAT WE MAY HUMBLY SERVE YOU AT THIS MEETING. SEND YOUR HOLY SPIRIT UPON US AND REMAIN PRESENT AMONG US, AND LEAD US INTO THE CONVERSATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS WE WILL HAVE. [A. Prayer] BLESS OUR WORDS AND THOUGHTS WITH HOLINESS, THAT WE MAY BE INSTRUMENTS OF YOUR GRACE. [B. Pledge of Allegiance] WE ASK THIS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WE HAVE A CERTIFICATION OF PUBLIC NOTICE. YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. STAFF DID NOTIFY THE PUBLIC AS PER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON [2. Certification of Public Notice] FRIDAY, APRIL THE 5TH AT 5 P.M.. [3. Disclosure of Conflict of Interest] THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES OF CONFLICT OF [4. Meeting Procedures] INTEREST COMMISSION? NONE. OKAY. MOVING ON. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CONSIDER THE EXCUSING OF THE ABSENCE OF [6. ABSENCES] [Consider excusing the absence of Commissioner Mr. Rodolfo “Rudy” Ramirez from the March 12, 2024 Regular Meeting.] COMMISSIONER MR.. RODOLFO RUDY RAMIREZ FROM THE MARCH 12TH, 2022 REGULAR MEETING. CAN I HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY. IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. [Consider Approval of the Minutes for the March 12, 2024 Regular Meeting] READY TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE MARCH 12TH, 2022 REGULAR MEETING. CAN I HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION. HAVE A SECOND. SECOND FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO REZONING REQUEST. [7. MINUTES] [8. PUBLIC HEARINGS] [A. Consider the Rezoning Request from Residential, Primary (RP) District to Commercial, General (CG) District, Being Lot Twelve (12) of Santa Cruz Orange Gardens] WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE REZONING REQUEST FROM RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY DISTRICT TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT, BEING LOT 12 OF SANTA CRUZ, ORANGE GARDEN SUBDIVISION BEING A SUBDIVISION OF LOT 39, SANTA CRUZ GARDENS, UNIT NUMBER ONE, LOCATED AT 105 WEST PALM DRIVE. STEPH, GOOD EVENING, ALEX GONZALEZ. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST PALM DRIVE. THE REQUESTED ZONING DESIGNATION IS A COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE FOR A WIDE RANGE OF COMMERCIAL USES. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY AND THERE IS CURRENTLY A MANUFACTURED [00:05:07] HOME ON THE PROPERTY. A REZONING REQUEST WAS APPROVED IN 2002 TO GO FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO COMMERCIAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. HOWEVER, IN OCTOBER 16TH OF 2007, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP FOR THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AS A RESULT OF THIS ADOPTION. THIS PROPERTY WAS DESIGNATED AS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION 7.1 DISTRICT. ADJACENT ZONING IS A COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO THE EAST AND SOUTH AND RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY TO THE NORTH AND WEST. WE MAILED OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE PROPERTY, AND WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS REQUEST. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST BASED ON ADJACENT ZONING DISTRICTS AND DENSITIES IN THE AREA. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD MEMBERS. MY NAME IS I GO BY LESLIE GRANTHAM, BUT I'M MARIA GRANTHAM AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD THAT YOU HAVE. WE ARE REQUESTING TO HAVE IT COMMERCIALIZED AT THIS TIME. BEING THAT IT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2002 AND THEN REZONED AGAIN TO BACK TO RESIDENTIAL IN 2000. WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY? IT. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. NO, THERE'S A POTENTIAL BUYER. I'M STONEY, THE HUSBAND. I'M A HUSBAND. WE HAVE IF YOU COULD TALK TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. STONEY GRANTHAM, I'M HER HUSBAND. BETTY'S HUSBAND. WE HAVE IN IN ATTENDANCE TODAY. POTENTIAL BUYERS FOR THE FOR THE PROPERTY. AND THEY'RE LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS, WHICH WE SUPPORT OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING AND IN A COMMERCIAL CAPACITY. WHAT ARE THEY PLANNING TO PUT THERE? OKAY, SO I CAN ANSWER THAT. MY NAME IS ANDREA REYES. WE ARE THE POTENTIAL BUYERS. WE WANT TO PURCHASE IT. IN ORDER TO START, WE'RE MOVING OUR BUSINESS FROM SAN JUAN TO THE CITY OF EDINBURG. SINCE WE ARE EDINBURG RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESS IS A TRAILER PARK. SO ALL OF THE INDUSTRIAL TRAILERS, THE FLATBEDS, THE TRANSPORTATION TRAILERS, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A STORE THAT SELLS ALL OF THE PARTS THAT THESE TRAILERS NEED IN ORDER TO BE SERVICED AND FIXED UP AND KEEP THESE, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT TRAILERS ON THE ROAD. SO WE WOULD BE ESTABLISHING THAT BUSINESS IN THAT AREA. MISS LETTIE'S THIS PROPERTY. YEAH. IT'S APPROPRIATE. GOOD, GOOD. OKAY WITH IT. DO YOU ALL OWN THE PROPERTY IN THE FRONT THAT FRONTS FRONTAGE ROAD? NOT THE CORNER LOT, BUT I DO OWN ABOUT 2626. SO THE STORE YOU'RE PUTTING WON'T HAVE FRONTAGE TECHNICALLY ON THE HIGHWAY. I'M SORRY. NO, THE STORE WE'RE PUTTING. SO WE'RE GOING TO PURCHASE THAT ONE ON FRONTAGE. HER PROPERTY ON FRONTAGE. OKAY. GOD WILLING, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT NOW. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN THE IN THE ONE RIGHT ADJACENT, RIGHT BEHIND IT, SO THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THAT SPACE. SO IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, MORE COMFORTABLE FOR THE UNLOADING AND LOADING OF THESE TRUCKS AND JUST GIVE US MORE SPACE SO IT COULD WORK OUT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO THAT IS WHY WE WANT TO REZONE, BECAUSE I KNOW THE ONE ON FRONTAGE SEEMS TO BE COMMERCIAL. SO THAT WAY THE BACK ONE JUST MAKES SENSE FOR US. SO WE CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, DO THINGS AS BRIGHT AS POSSIBLE. YOU KNOW, THE BACK ONE'S PRETTY SMALL. IT'S ONLY 100 FOOT WIDE. SO, YEAH, FOR COMMERCIAL, IT'S PRETTY SMALL. THAT WILL SUFFICE. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU GUYS. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE FLOOR FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER. THERE WAS NOBODY THERE WAS NOBODY AGAINST THIS. NO, NO. AT THIS TIME. NO. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION. I HAVE A SECOND. EVERY IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. [B. Consider the Rezoning Request from Commercial,Neighborhood(CN) District to Commercial, General (CG) District, All of Lots 2 and 3, The Links Commercial Subdivision,] ITEM EIGHT B RECONSIDER THE REZONING REQUEST FROM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT. ALL OF LOTS TWO AND THREE. THE LINX COMMERCIAL SUBDIVISION, LOCATED AT 901 AND 1001 SOUTH RAUL LONGORIA. STAFF. SO THESE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH ROAD. THE REQUESTED ZONING DESIGNATION NATION IS A COMMERCIAL GENERAL WHICH ALLOWS FOR A WIDE RANGE OF COMMERCIAL USES. THE PROPOSED USE FOR THESE PROPERTIES IS A COMMERCIAL PLAZA. THE PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND ADJACENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH, [00:10:03] RESIDENTIAL PRIMARY TO THE WEST, AND A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN DISTRICT AND COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST. THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES. STAFF MAILED OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS REQUEST. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST BASED ON THE LAND USE PATTERN AND DENSITIES IN THE AREA. IF APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM. NO COMMENTS. I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE FLOOR. COMMISSION. MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. [C. Consider the Variance Request to the City’s Unified Development Code Article 4, Section 4.303, Permanent Signs, Being Lot 1, Freedom Bank at La Sienna Subdivision,] WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO TO ITEM EIGHT C. WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. ARTICLE FOUR SECTION 4.303 PERMANENT SIGNS BEING LOT ONE FREEDOM BANK AT LA SIENNA SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 4120 NORTH I-69. SEE STAFF IS COMMISSIONER OF PLANNING AND ZONING. DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD. THE ZONING OR THE VARIANCE REQUEST IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT IS FOR A SIGN THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT BY FREEDOM BANK AT SIENNA SUBDIVISION. AND WITH THE WITH THE COMPANY IS PROPOSING IS A A TALL SIGN, KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE ALONG THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT BROCKTON HAS AT THEIR AUTO DEALERSHIP. AND THIS ONE IS 600FT². AND THE MAXIMUM THAT IS ALLOWED ALONG THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR WITHOUT A VARIANCE IS 200FT. SO THE VARIANCE IS TO HAVE 600FT INSTEAD OF 200FT. WE HAVE ALLOWED TWO OTHER SIGNS. ONE OF THEM IS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER FOR THE LAW FIRM NEXT TO ONE OF THE DEALERSHIPS. AND OF COURSE, THE ONE THAT HAS IN FRONT OF THE FIESTA, GMC AND BUICK. SO THIS ONE IS, IS GOING TO BE MADE BY HIGHWAY NEON SIGNS, AND THEY'RE USING DAKTRONICS PANELS, WHICH ARE THE TOP OF THE LINE PANELS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE BRIGHT AT NIGHT. THEY'RE GOING TO BE MONITORED SO THAT THEY DIM AT NIGHT. AND BECAUSE IT IS EXCEEDING THE ALLOWABLE SQUARE FOOT. WE WANT TO STICK TO THE UDC AND RECOMMEND DENIAL, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S UP TO THE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ALLOW IT OR DISALLOW IT. THIS MATTER IS NOW BEFORE YOU. I GOT A QUESTION. WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR 200FT MAX ON THE UDC? IF IT'S ON THE HIGHWAY, IT'S ON THE HIGHWAY. THEY JUST IF IT WAS A MULTI-TENANT SITE WHERE THERE'S MORE BUSINESSES ON THERE, YOU ARE ALLOWED A GREATER AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE. BUT BECAUSE IT'S ONLY ONE BUSINESS PER SE, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE VARIANCE PROCESS EACH TIME. BUT THERE'S KIND OF TWO VARIANCES, RIGHT. ONE IS THE HEIGHT AND ONE IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. CORRECT. IT'S TWO THINGS RIGHT. JUST CURIOUS WHY OUR UDC SAYS ONLY 200FT ON A HIGHWAY SIGN. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF OF MAKING SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE UDC. PERHAPS THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT. I THINK SO, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S ON THE HIGHWAY. 200FT IS NOT VERY HIGH. EXACTLY. YEAH. OR VERY BIG IN SIZE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S HIGH UP IN THE AIR. BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT OVER THE HEIGHT LIMIT. NO IT'S NOT OVER HEIGHT. IT'S JUST SQUARE FOOTAGE. IT'S A SQUARE FOOTAGE. YEAH I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S WAY OVER THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. BUT I WILL SAY ONCE IT GOES UP IN THE AIR 50, 60FT, WHAT'S DOWN HERE APPEARS A LOT SMALLER UP IN THE AIR. TO THE NAKED EYE IT IS A LITTLE. BUT THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE ONLY. I MEAN, I SEE THAT WHATABURGER SIGN JUST DRIVING INTO TOWN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S 700FT², IS IT? NO. THE WHATABURGER SIGN. YOU SEE THEM JUST JUST AS WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEE IT FROM FROM SAN MANUEL. I JUST HAVE TO SEE IT UP CLOSE WHEN I DRIVE. HOW BIG IS IT? HOW BIG IS A TRADITIONAL BILLBOARD SQUARE FOOTAGE. A BILLBOARD IS. NO, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN. IT'S CLOSE TO 900FT². WOW. SO THIS IS ALMOST A BILLBOARD? YEAH, YEAH. AS YOU KNOW, THESE THESE BUSINESSES ARE USING THEM MORE AND MORE FOR FOR MESSAGE BOARDS. I MEAN, YOU SEE A LOT OF COMMUNITY MESSAGES OUT THERE AT THE BERT OGDEN ONE. SO IT'S WOUNDED WARRIORS. I SEE THAT THING ON THERE. YEAH. YOU SEE WOUNDED WARRIORS WHEN WHENEVER THERE'S A, THERE'S A, LIKE A FALLEN PD OFFICER OR FIREFIGHTER, THEY USUALLY HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING ON GRANTED THAT VARIANCE FOR BERT OGDEN, WE DID. WE GRANTED THE VARIANCE FOR BERT OGDEN. WE GRANTED ANOTHER VARIANCE ON THE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE EXPRESSWAY ON THE WEST SIDE. THERE'S A LOT MORE, I THINK THAT WAS JAY GONZALEZ. GONZALEZ WAS THAT HERE AT PNC WAS APPROVED? YES. AND I THINK THE BERT OGDEN HAS A LOT MORE SIGNS AROUND IT. THIS ONE IS ALL BY ITSELF. [00:15:01] THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESSES OR ANYTHING, BUT THERE WILL BE. THAT'S THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THAT'S RIGHT. WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE OTHER BUSINESSES COME IN THIS THIS WILL BE OWNED BY FREEDOM BANK. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THEN HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ADVERTISE THE OTHER BUSINESSES? WELL, THEY CANNOT DO ANY OFF SITE ADVERTISING. THIS IS ONLY GOING TO BE FOR FREEDOM BANK. JUST FOR THE RECORD, IT'S JUST FOR THEM. THAT'S THE CONFLICT THAT I HAVE. AND THEN EVERYBODY DOWN THE WHOLE HIGHWAY IS GOING TO WANT THOSE SIGNS LIKE THAT, THAT SIZE. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CLUTTER OF DRIVING INTO TOWN AND ALL YOU SEE ARE BILLBOARDS ACROSS THERE. YEAH. AND I MEAN, WE'RE IN TOWN, RIGHT? WE'RE IN EDINBURGH. IT'S NOT THE EXPRESSWAY. I MEAN, WAS YOUR. THE EXPRESSWAY TO ME IS EAST AND WEST, AND THERE ARE THOSE BIG BILLBOARDS AND I SEE THOSE SIGNS THERE. BUT, I MEAN, IS THIS REALLY WHAT YOU WANT EDINBURGH TO SEE PEOPLE TO SEE WHEN THEY'RE COMING INTO EDINBURGH IS JUST A FLOOD OF, OF 700FT² SIGNS. YEAH. AND THERE'S GOT TO BE A MEDIUM SOMEWHERE. RIGHT. AND MAYBE IT'S MORE THAN 200, BUT I THINK THAT'S EXCESSIVE. AND HOW BIG IS THE SIGN. IT'S IT'S THREE SIDES THOUGH. IT'S THE SAME THING. YEAH, BUT WE ONLY CALCULATE ONE FACE. THE BURDOCK SIGN IS ABOUT 800FT², SO IT'S BIGGER THAN THIS ONE. IT'S BIGGER THAN THIS ONE. CORRECT. THE LITTLE DETAIL ON THIS HAS LIKE A33 SIDES. THIS IS GOING TO BE A THREE SIDED SIGN AS WELL. OH IT IS THREE SIDES. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR TO THE BURDOCK JUST A LITTLE BIT SMALLER IN SIZE. OH AND WE KIND OF SET SOME PRECEDENT ON THAT ONE. THAT'S THE THING THAT KIND OF HAS ME ON THE EDGE ALREADY. YOU'VE ALREADY OPENED PANDORA'S BOX, RIGHT? SO IS IT. ALL THREE SIDES. TOTALS A 600FT². NO, WE COUNT ONE PIECE. OKAY. SO EACH EACH SIDE IS SEVEN. SIDE IS 700FT². YEAH. BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED TO HAVE OTHER PLAZAS. RIGHT? OTHER BUSINESSES. RIGHT. NO, NO, IT'S JUST HIS. NO. BUT IN THAT STRIP ORIGINALLY SUBDIVIDED? NO, IT'S NOT SUBDIVIDED. SO CAN BIRDS JUST. NO. RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST IT'S IT'S ONE COMMERCIAL LOT WITH ONE SIGN. IS THERE A MASTER PLAN? NO, NO, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE. SO IT'S ALL BY ITSELF. IS THAT PART OF LA CIENEGA OR. IT'S AN OUT PARCEL OF LAND. PARCEL OF LA CIENEGA? OKAY. YEAH. YEAH, BECAUSE LA CIENEGA HAS A BUNCH OF FRONTAGE. I'M SURE THEY'VE GOT DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT AREN'T GOING TO ALLOW THAT TYPE OF SIGNAGE, SO. YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE OFF THE EXPRESSWAY. RIGHT. IT'S ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD. IT'S ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD. IT'S ON THAT CURVE. YEAH, YEAH, RIGHT ON THE ENTRANCE THERE. I THINK THAT'S WHY HE WANTS THE BIG SIGN. BECAUSE HE'S. HE'S ON THE CURVE. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW HE'S THERE. BUT IT'S NOT IN THE WAY OF ANY LIKE IT WOULDN'T TRAFFIC. IT WOULDN'T. IT'S NOT BEING BUILT OVER ANY EASEMENTS. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IMPACT THE VISIBILITY OF THE TRAFFIC. NO IT'S NOT. IT'S PRETTY SMALL. OKAY. I'M JUST GLAD THAT THERE'S NOT IN THE CITY OF EDINBURGH. THERE'S NOT A WAY TO GO BACK AND AND SEE IF THEY WOULD ACCEPT A LITTLE BIT SMALLER SIGN. I MEAN, I MEAN, IF WE DECLINE THIS, DOES IT IS IT GONE FOR GOOD OR DOES IT. THEY HAVE TO WAIT OR IS THIS SOMETHING THEY CAN JUST COME BACK AND AND SAY, WELL, LET'S DO 500FT² OR LET'S DO SOMETHING ELSE. THAT'S, THAT'S MORE THAN THE 200 BEFORE WE WE MAKE ANY CHANGES. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S UP TO THE TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE. I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO LIMIT IT TO, TO 500FT², I MEAN, THAT'S WITHIN BERT OGDEN IS 800, THIS ONE IS 700. AND THE LAW FIRM, I THINK IS IS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I DON'T AGAIN, NO, NO OFFENSE TO OUR COUNSELOR, BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANY ATTORNEY NEEDS 700FT². I'VE SEEN YOUR COMMERCIALS. THEY'RE BETTER THAN THE THAN THE BILLBOARDS. YOU GET MORE OUT OF THOSE BILLBOARDS, YOU KNOW, HE HAS NO BILLBOARDS. DOESN'T NEED HIM, MAN. HE'S GOT HIS FACE. THAT'S IT. OKAY IF I MAY JUST JUMP IN REAL QUICK ON ON THE QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED. SO ULTIMATELY, THIS WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL. SO NO MATTER WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS OF THE, OF THE COMMISSION, THE COUNCIL HAS THE ULTIMATE SAY IN THE MATTER. BUT IF THIS BODY DENIES AND THEN THE COUNCIL ALSO DENIES, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESUBMIT FOR THIS SPECIFIC REQUEST. RIGHT. IT WOULD BE A SUCCESSIVE PETITION THAT THEY WOULDN'T, THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO DO. CORRECT. YES. SO IF THE BOARD WOULD RATHER TABLE THE ITEM RIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE, SO THAT THE STAFF CAN CONTINUE TO TALK WITH THEM ABOUT OPTIONS THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER AS WELL. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD I DON'T THINK IT WOULD GET THAT FAR. [00:20:01] I THINK THE PHONE CALLS WOULD BE MADE, BUT YEAH, I'LL I'LL MAKE MY BEG TO SIGN THAT BIG. WE'LL I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE AND LET LET ME HAVE A DISCUSSION AND SEE IF THEY CAN COME UP WITH A WITH A MIDDLE GROUND. THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE I MEAN, SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO EVERYONE. OKAY. OKAY. SO I GOT A MOTION TO TABLE. DO I GOT A SECOND? WELL, ACTUALLY. SO I WAS JUST REMINDED THAT WE HAVE NOT YET OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE PROBABLY SHOULD DO THAT TO ALLOW FOR COMMENTS BEFORE TAKING ACTION. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, PLEASE. THERE YOU GO. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I WORK WITH A1 SKYLIGHT SIGNS AND OBVIOUSLY, WELL, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ALL MENTIONED IT'S THREE SIDED OR TWO SIDED. IT'S TWO SIDED. I'M SORRY. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. I'M SORRY. YOUR NAME? ARTURO RUIZ, WITH A1 SKYLIGHT HIGHWAY NEON. THE SIGN IS ACTUALLY TWO SIDED. IT'S BASICALLY THE SIZE OF A BILLBOARD. OUR CLIENT WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OBVIOUSLY LET PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT. THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE. THE WAY, SO TO SPEAK. IT'S A ONE WAY FRONTAGE. THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, A TWO WAY KIND OF TRAFFIC GOING UP WHERE THEY'RE AT. SO THAT BEING SAID, THAT WAS THE IDEA. THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE AT. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT WAS TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS IT RELATES TO BANKING AND INVESTING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BECAUSE HE'S NOT ON THE HIGHWAY, HE'S LIKE OFF THE. SO, I MEAN, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A LARGE SIGN. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE IN EXISTENCE HERE IN THE CITY OF EDINBURGH. BUT THAT BEING SAID IT'S A TOOL NOT ONLY FOR THEM TO ADVERTISE TIES FOR THEIR OWN BUSINESS, BUT ALSO A WAY FOR THEM TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, KEEP THE COMMUNITY INFORMED WITH WITH THEIR FINANCIAL SERVICES, THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE GREAT CITY OF EDINBURGH, ETCETERA. AND AT THE SAME TIME LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE AT. YOU KNOW, STRUCTURALLY, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS ARE BUILT TO WITHSTAND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WIND LOADS AND EVERYTHING. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ENGINEERED AND STRUCTURALLY SOUND. DAKTRONICS IS THE LEADER IN THE INDUSTRY. THEY'RE JUST A TOP NOTCH. IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE PUT UP ONE OF THESE, THIS IS THE COMPANY TO USE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I LEAVE IT UP TO YOU GUYS TO TO DECIDE AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, COME TO MAYBE A MEDIUM LIKE YOU ALL SAID, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH MORE TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. IS THIS A. I'M SORRY, SIR. MR. REESE, MR. REESE IS IS THE WHAT'S THE NEXT SMALLER SIZE? THEY COME IN REALLY ALL SIZES. THE NEXT SMALLER SIZE. I MEAN, REALLY WOULD WE'D HAVE TO KIND OF LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE CUSTOMER WOULD ACTUALLY WANT TO SEE. BUT IN ALL HONESTY, THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A BILLBOARD SIZE SO THAT WE COULD BE VISIBLE. HEY, LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS BESIDES THIS ONE. OR HOW DID HE ARRIVE TO THAT CONCLUSION? WE DID. WE HAD SMALLER VERSIONS OF IT IN THE BEGINNING. RATIONALE. BY GOING TO THIS SIZE JUST THE DISTANCE FROM THE ROADWAY. YES, BECAUSE OUR TARGET AUDIENCE REALLY IS THE FREEWAY. DO YOU DO THAT ANALYSIS YOURSELF TO SAY THIS WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE SIGN? OR HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH THE THIS IS THE ONE. BESIDES, YOU WANT TO SELL IT? YEAH. THE WAY WE DO THAT IS WE LOOK AT THE DISTANCE FROM OUR TARGET AUDIENCE, WHICH IS THE FREEWAY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TO TARGET. THERE'S A BIG GAP BETWEEN THE FRONTAGE ROAD. THERE'S A BIG GAP. AND THEN WE SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THERE'S THE ACTUAL HIGHWAY ITSELF. SO IT'S FAR AWAY. CORRECT. SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE BILLBOARDS ON THE FREEWAY BECAUSE OF THAT DISTANCE AND YOUR VIEWING TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING 70, 80 MILES AN HOUR. [00:25:03] SO TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SENSE OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS REALLY AND THERE'S NO OTHER WORDS, NO OTHER BILLBOARDS GOING UP, NOTHING IN THE PLAN. THERE'S NOTHING IN THAT AREA ALL BY ITSELF. IT'S ALL BY ITSELF. SOMEWHERE ELSE. EXACTLY LIKE THAT ONE. DO WE HAVE ONE EXACTLY LIKE THAT? THAT SIZE? WELL, THE ONE I GUESS BERT OGDEN WOULD BE. YES, SIMILAR IN SIZE. OGDEN IS LIKE FOR GATHERINGS AND ASSEMBLIES. THIS IS NOT FOR HUGE GATHERINGS. THIS IS NOT FOR HUGE GATHERINGS. THIS IS FOR BUSINESS, CORRECT? RIGHT. SO THAT'S FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. BUT FOR ANOTHER BUSINESS LIKE THIS, HAVE YOU DONE ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NOT NECESSARILY IN THE VALLEY OR. CAR DEALERSHIP. IT'S THE ONE ON THE CORNER. YEAH. THE ONE. YEAH. I GUESS SOMETHING SIMILAR, BUT NOT TO THAT SCALE WOULD BE WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR JAY GONZALEZ. HE HAS A SMALL ONE HERE. OKAY A SMALLER ONE. YEAH. SMALLER. YEAH. WE'VE GOT SOME BIGGER ONES IN BROWNSVILLE. HOW BIG IS THAT ONE? MR.. IT LOOKS BIG, RIGHT? THIS ONE? NO, THE ONE FOR I AM NOT. YEAH I WANT TO SAY THAT ONE'S LIKE 20 BY 24 SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. SO SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE COMPARED TO THIS ONE SQUARE FOOTAGE, PROBABLY ABOUT 400FT². 500, 700. YEAH. THIS ONE'S ROUGHLY ABOUT 650 OR SO. THE JAY GONZALEZ IS HOW BIG THE JAY GONZALEZ 400FT². 400. YEAH. AND THAT'S IN A MUCH MORE CONGESTED AREA. IT'S RIGHT OFF THE HIGHWAY. THIS ONE IS NOT RIGHT OFF THE HIGHWAY. YEAH. THIS ONE IS REALLY SET BACK. WE'RE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 7 TO 1500FT AWAY FROM YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE. SO IT'S GOT TO BE BIG TO BE ABLE TO GET TO IT. YEAH. I'M SURE YOU ALL DISCUSS THESE SIZES, RIGHT? AS FAR AS A SMALLER SIZE. WE HAD AND WE DID SOME FLAGGING WITH, WITH OUR TRUCKS OUT THERE, AND THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVED TO THE 50FT. WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE TOO HIGH. WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE TOO LOW. LINE OF SIGHT. EXACTLY. ON THE HIGHWAY, THEY CAN SEE YOU. CORRECT. AND LITERALLY JUST DRIVING UP AND DOWN WITH A TRUCK UP $200,000 SIGN. THEY DID SOME SOME RESEARCH. YOU DID YOUR RESEARCH. IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT. WHAT DOES THIS WHAT DOES IT SOUND LIKE THIS COST? I'M JUST CURIOUS. BOUGHT HALF A MILLION. SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AROUND HALF A MILLION. HALF A LITTLE MORE. YEAH. IT'S A BIG SIGN THEY DO TAX FOR THESE SIGNS, BY THE WAY. A LOT OF FURNITURE AND FIXTURES. MORE THAN THE COST TO PUT THE BUILDING UP. YOUR TAXES. THE BUILDING TAXES? YEAH. IT'S MORE THAN THE BUILDING. OH, YEAH. NO, ACTUALLY, IT'S A VERY NICE BUILDING. YEAH. AND THAT WAS THE OTHER THING THEY REALLY ARE DOING THEMSELVES WITH THE ARCHITECTURE ON THAT BUILDING. IT'S A IT'S A NICE IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE LOOKING LITTLE BANK. AND THEY ARE GROWING BANK. I JUST IN THAT LITTLE YELLOW SQUARE IS THAT IS THAT SIGN GOING TO BE I GUESS I ASSUME IT'S GOING TO BE WAY UP AT THE FRONT OF THAT. RIGHT. CORRECT. AND IT WOULD BE ON THE NORTHWEST PART OF THAT PROPERTY. OKAY. SO IT'S A DOUBLE A DOUBLE. IT'LL BE YEAH. YEAH. TRAFFIC BOTH WAYS. YOU WANT TO SEE IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE TOO OR WHAT. THAT'S THE IDEA. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ON THE NORTHERNMOST PART OF THE PROPERTY. SO AS THEY'RE COMING OVER THE THE OVERPASS, YOU THEY'LL HAVE A FEW SECONDS TO TO VIEW WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH FREEDOM BANK. ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR.. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. ROBERT THOMAS MELVIN HUNT 1125 WEST MCINTYRE. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN FROM MR.. LONGORIA. MR. GONZALEZ, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG SIGN. MUCH BIGGER THAN WHAT WE'VE ALLOWED SO FAR IN THE CITY OF EDINBURGH. I THINK WHAT I, WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT WAS THAT THE UDC DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY REFERENCE DIGITAL SIGNS. RIGHT? I THINK THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE USED TO SEEING, BECAUSE WITH TECHNOLOGY, WE'RE MOVING PAST THAT. AND I KNOW MR. ACEVEDO SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT CHANGING THE UDC AND MAYBE MODIFYING THAT. I THINK THIS NEEDS TO COME INTO PLAY. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S THE CONCERN, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SIZE. IT'S LARGER THAN WHAT WE'RE USED TO SEEING. I JUST WANT TO REMIND. I KNOW IT'S BEEN SAID, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS PRECEDENCE ALREADY FOR SIGNS ALONG THE HIGHWAY THAT ARE THERE. AND I KNOW THEY SAID, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE USED FOR ADVERTISING, RIGHT? IT'S JUST FOR FREEDOM. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S OTHER ONES THAT ARE THAT ARE ALONG THE EXPRESSWAY THAT ARE USED FOR ADVERTISING OR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT JUST RELATED TO THE TO THAT SPECIFIC USE OF LOCATION. AND SO YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE TO WE'RE AT YOUR MERCY AND HOW YOU GUYS WANT TO HANDLE IT, YOU KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY NEED TO TAKE IT BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT, WE CAN DO THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, TOO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE BIGGEST SIGN THAT'S GOING TO BE ALONG THE HIGHWAY HERE. IT IS A NEW AREA THAT'S GROWING, RIGHT? SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL KEEP ATTRACTING TO SIENA AND BRINGING MORE COMMERCIAL AREA TO THE AREA TO MAKE SURE IT KEEPS GROWING AS WELL TOO. [00:30:03] I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR AMOS. SO ALL THE BILLBOARDS ON THE HIGHWAY THAT ARE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS HAD TO GET A VARIANCE. NO, THE BILLBOARDS ARE DIFFERENT. THERE'S OFF PREMISE ADVERTISING AND REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE IT'S 100FT. WE'RE MAXED OUT ON BILLBOARDS. YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY MORE BILLBOARDS HERE IN EDINBURGH. OKAY. BUT THIS IS NOT AN OFF PREMISE. THIS IS AN ON PREMISE PREMISE. YEAH. SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT. THE ONE I WAS REFERRING TO WAS A BILLBOARD, NOT ON PREMISE. LOCATION SIGN. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS? IF NOT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE FLOOR. CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? AGAINST STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. BUT I THINK THERE'S ALREADY A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. WELL, TECHNICALLY, HE'S ALREADY GOTTEN BEFORE. YEAH, IT WAS BEFORE, SO. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO RESET, AND WE GOT A MOTION. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MOTION TO. YEAH. THE RECOMMENDATION AGAINST STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. WELL, SO WE WE DO HAVE THE PENDING MOTION, AND I KNOW IT WAS TAKEN PRIOR TO THE HEARING, BUT IT IS STILL LIVE AND ACTIVE UNLESS IT'S WITHDRAWN BY THE MAKER OF THE MOTION. SO THAT THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S PENDING, AND AVAILABLE FOR VOTE. I DON'T WANT TO WITHDRAW IT IF I DON'T GET A SECOND THOUGH. OKAY. SO OUR OUR INITIAL MOTION WAS TO TABLE THE ITEM, CORRECT TO LOOK FOR A SMALLER SIGN, A MANAGEMENT MANAGEABLE SOMETHING BETWEEN THE STAFF AND OKAY. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS THE MOTION ON HAND. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION. I'LL SECOND IT. SECOND. EVERYBODY IN FAVOR PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. EVERYBODY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. IT WAS 3 TO 3 433243. YEAH. IT APPEARED TO BE FOUR THREE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL MOVE ALONG TO SUBDIVISION VARIANCE. [9. SUBDIVISION (VARIANCES)] [A. Consider Variance Request to the City's Unified Development Code Article 3 Table 3.102-4] WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. ARTICLE THREE, TABLE 3.102 DASH FOR DUPLEX AND MULTIPLEX LOT AND BUILDING STANDARDS. LOT WIDTH FOR THE PROPOSED SERENITY SPRINGS PHASE TWO SUBDIVISION BEING A FOUR ACRE TRACT OF LAND, BEING THE EAST FOUR ACRES OF THE SOUTH, FIVE ACRES OF THE NORTH. 20 ACRES OF LOT SEVEN, SECTION 275 TEXAS MEXICAN RAILWAY COMPANY SURVEY, HIDALGO COUNTY, TEXAS, LOCATED AT 1300 SOUTH MCCALL ROAD. STAFF ADAM ELIZONDO THANK YOU. THIS IS A NEW SUBDIVISION. IT'S A PROPOSED SERENITY SPRINGS PHASE TWO. THE ORIGINAL PORTION IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY ABUTTING THIS ONE. IT IS LOCATED TECHNICALLY, IT HAS ONLY A FLAG SHAPE, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SEEN NECESSARILY FROM THE ROAD, BUT IT'S ALONG SOUTH MCCALL, ABOUT 249FT EAST OF THE ROAD. SO WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, IT'S A FOUR ACRE ADDITION TO THE ORIGINAL SERENITY SPRINGS. WHICH IS HERE. THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS FOR 12 MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS CONTAINING A HEADLINE. ASSOCIATES, ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER, IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED SUBDIVISION. TABLE 3.1024 DUPLEXES AND MULTIPLEXES. LOT AND BUILDING STANDARDS REGARDING LOT WIDTH HAS A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH REQUIREMENT OF 80FT. WE'VE SEEN THIS SAME VARIANCE COME THROUGH A FEW TIMES IN THE LAST YEAR. ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, THE REQUIREMENT WAS 100FT. WE ADOPTED THE UDC TO REDUCE IT TO 80. THIS SPECIFIC REQUEST IS TO REDUCE IT ON NINE OF THE LOTS, SO THERE'S 12 IN TOTAL. THREE OF THEM DO MEET THE LOT WIDTH REQUIREMENT AND NINE OF THEM DO NOT. THOSE NINE ALL HAVE THE SAME LOT WIDTH FRONTAGE OF 75FT. IF YOU READ THE AGENDA THAT YOU WERE GIVEN OR THE PACKET YOU WERE GIVEN, YOU'LL SEE THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL AT THE TIME. SINCE THEN SOME DISCOVERIES WERE MADE REGARDING CONSTRUCTION AND INFRASTRUCTURE. SO INITIALLY THE PORTION THAT'S GOING TO BE PHASE TWO IS ON THE SOUTH PART OF THIS FOR SOME REASON IT'S NOT ON HERE, BUT THAT ROAD ON THE SOUTH PART OF PHASE ONE HAS THE 12 LOTS IN IN ORDER JUST RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM PORTION. [00:35:01] SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT WHEN THEY FIRST PLATTED THIS. BUT IT ONLY MAKES SENSE SINCE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALONG THAT NEW PROPOSED ROAD CALLED A SUNSET DRIVE FOR SUNSET LANE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BE IN PLACE PRIOR TO THE RIGHT OF WAY BEING PAVED. ASSUMING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHICH THEY DID OUR CITY ENGINEER OR ONE OF OUR CITY ENGINEERS PETER ALMEIDA IS GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THAT CONSTRUCTION PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. AND THE LAYOUT THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS BASED OFF OF A COUPLE THINGS. THE REQUEST FOR US TO BE MORE ADAPTABLE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION WAS SO THAT WE COULD CONCEPTUALLY SEE THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO BE A CONSTRAINT TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT THAT THERE WAS A 50% INCREASE IN SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF 8000. SO THE AVERAGE SQUARE FEET ON THESE LOTS ARE 12,000. AND WE'RE AS A STAFF, WE'RE WE'RE NOT PRIVY TO FAVORING THESE VARIANCES ANYMORE. THE PUSH IS TO, TO GO AWAY FROM THEM. BUT IN THE HOLISTIC OF THIS SPECIFIC CASE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE TIE IN TO PHASE ONE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. BUT I'D ALSO LIKE FOR MR.. TO SAY A COUPLE WORDS BEFORE WE OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU SIR. PLANNING COMMISSION. PLANNING COMMISSION. PETER FOR THE RECORD SERENITY SPRINGS, PHASE ONE ALONG MCCALL ROAD WAS APPROVED PRIOR TO THE PRIOR TO THE PRELIMINARY COMING IN FOR PHASE TWO. NOW NOW THAT WE'RE COMING IN, PHASE ONE IS A PRIVATE SUBDIVISION. DIVISION. THAT'S GOING TO BE UP AGAINST THE PHASE TWO. CONSTRUCTION. PHASE ONE WAS APPROVED WITH THE SANITARY SEWER AND WATER SERVICES PRIOR TO THE CONCEPTION OF PHASE TWO. SO THE PHASE ONE SERVICES ACROSS THE ROAD ARE GOING TO BE IN PLACE PRIOR TO IF ANYTHING WERE TO OCCUR IN THAT TIME. NOW WE DO ALSO HAVE ALFONSO. WE DO WE DO HAVE A MR. LALO RAMIREZ AS WELL. HE DOES HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTARIES, IF YOU MIGHT ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASK. THE COMMISSIONER MIGHT HAVE AND BUT IN TERMS OF THAT, THOUGH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE SO FAR. BUT IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ENGINEERING STAFF, I'M ALSO HERE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANYTHING. THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE. OKAY. REAL QUICK. SO THOSE LOTS. AND I BELIEVE IT'S THE 12 LOTS YOU ALL ARE REFERRING TO. THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THOSE LOTS ARE ALL GOING TO BE 12,000 PLUS SQUARE FEET. SQUARE FEET IS THAT WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY? THERE ARE SLIGHT DIFFERENCES IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. I THINK THE LOWEST THAT ANY OF THEM GO IS 11,800, BUT IT'S WELL ABOVE THE 8000FT² MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. AT THE VERY LEAST, IT'S ALMOST 400. IT'S JUST THE FRONTAGE FROM 80 TO 75. YEAH. SO IT AND IT DOES GET. SEE. THE REASON THAT WE ARE NOT INCLINED TO APPROVE THINGS LIKE THIS IS THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES AND UTILITY SERVICES GETTING STACKED SO CLOSE TOGETHER, ESPECIALLY ONCE YOU PUT THE ROADWAY IN. BUT IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE AND ENGINEERING WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT IT AND REVIEW IT AND SAY, THIS MAKES SENSE FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE THEN IN RARE OCCASIONS I GUESS IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL, BUT I THINK THIS ONE ALSO BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PHASE ONE COULD NOT BE COMPLETED WITHOUT HAVING THAT ROAD PAVED RIGHT. AND ONCE IT WAS PAVED, WE WEREN'T GOING TO ASK THEM TO BREAK IT, TO NOW MAKE NEW SERVICE CONNECTIONS. SO THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC SCENARIO. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE LIKELIHOOD OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROVAL IS, IS GOING TO BE VERY COMMON. SO WE'RE TRYING NOT TO DO THAT. OKAY. SO WHAT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE 75FT OR IS THERE ENOUGH SPACE FOR THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AND ALL THAT. DID ENGINEERING TAKE A LOOK AT THAT? THEY DID. BUT I'D LIKE TO LEAVE THE BURDEN OF PROOF ON ON THE ENGINEER. HE'D BE BETTER TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. NO PROBLEM. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON PHASE ONE. THEY DID GET THE VARIANCE. THEY DID NOT, BECAUSE PHASE ONE DIDN'T NEED ONE. ALL OF THE LOTS ON PHASE ONE, LOTS WERE. [00:40:02] YES. THIS ONE IF YOU. AND FOR SOME REASON, I APOLOGIZE. THE SLIDE MUST HAVE. IT'S PROBABLY MY FAULT, BUT THE WAY THAT THE LITTLE RECTANGLE THAT WAS PURCHASED ON THE SOUTH END WAS BOUGHT. IF YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU EITHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, LIKE, THESE GINORMOUS LOTS OR 75FT. AND YOU'RE SAYING THE SERVICES IF YOU GO TO THIS SLIDE. OH, SO YOU DO HAVE IT THERE. YEAH. WE'LL SHOW YOU PHASE ONE. THERE'S ALREADY STUBS AND SERVICES UNDER THE PAVED ASPHALT ROAD FOR THIS NEXT PHASE. YEAH. SO ESSENTIALLY GO THERE IF THE VARIANCE IS DENIED HALF OF THOSE STUB OUTS, WHAT THE LAYOUT WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY EITHER HAVE TO BREAK SOME OF THE RIGHT OF WAY TO CHANGE IT OR ABANDON SOME OF THE SERVICE CONNECTIONS. IT WOULD GET PRETTY COMPLICATED. OH, OKAY. SO I REDACT A PORTION OF WHAT I JUST SAID. CAN YOU CURRENTLY FACE ONE IS BEING BUILT OUT RIGHT NOW. SO THE SERVICES ARE IN PLACE. THEY'RE NOT IN PLACE YET. SO JUST JUST JUST FOR ACCURACY, THEY COULD CHANGE. THERE'S STILL TIME TO CHANGE IT. YES. WELL, SOME OF THE SERVICES HAVE ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED ON THE SOUTH SIDE, BUT IT'S NOT PAVED YET. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, STAFF IS SAYING YES TO THE VARIANCE. BOTTOM LINE. YES, SIR. WELL, THEY HAVE APPROVED CONSTRUCTION PLANS THAT MODERATE THIS. AND BECAUSE OF THAT AND THE RENDERING THOSE TWO THINGS AND WHAT I SAID EARLIER ABOUT IT TYING INTO PHASE ONE HOLISTICALLY THIS RARE BUT YES. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS VARIANCE. YES, SIR. AGAINST THE UDC. YES, SIR. GOT IT. AND I KNOW WE'VE APPROVED SOME BEFORE IN THE PAST, WITH REGARDS TO IF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ENTIRE SITE ARE LARGER THAN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE KIND OF AGAIN. BUT MY QUESTION IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS ENOUGH SPACE FOR YOUR TRASH ENCLOSURES AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LOTS WORK WITH THE FRONTAGE. SO. YEAH. EXACTLY. AND SO PART OF THE REQUEST PROCESS IS THAT WHEN WE DO THE SUBDIVISION REVIEW ALL THE KEY PLAYERS FROM THE CITY ARE INVITED TO THE SUBDIVISION REVIEW MEETING. AND ONE OF THEM IS SOLID WASTE AND UTILITIES AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FIRE MARSHAL MYSELF. ENGINEERING. SO IN THAT THEY GET THE COMMENTARY ABOUT. HEY, WE NEED A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE LAYOUT. THAT'S ONE OF THE SHEETS THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE PROVIDED SO THAT THEY, AT THAT TIME, CAN REVIEW IT FOR FEASIBILITY. RIGHT. AND BASED OFF OF THEIR REVIEW IT WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN APPROVED BEFORE THEY GOT A NOTICE TO PROCEED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY REVIEWED THE DUMPSTER PROPOSED DUMPSTER LAYOUT. OKAY. THEY WOULD HAVE REVIEWED IT EVEN THOUGH PHASE ONE DIDN'T HAVE THIS AREA. WELL, YES, BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY MADE IT IN SUCH A WAY. WHERE AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THE ENCLOSURES FOR PHASE TWO ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT ROAD, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN PHASE ONE. AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT? SO THERE'S NO TRASH CANS ON THE NEW PHASE. PHASE TWO ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD, ON THE ONES WITH THE 75 FOOT FRONTAGE? NO, THEY'RE ON THE NORTH SIDE. OKAY. OKAY, I'M COOL WITH IT. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. EVERYBODY IN FAVOR? [being the east 4.00 acres of the south 5.00 acres of the north 20.00 acres of Lot 7, Section 275, Texas-Mexican Rail way Company’s Survey, Hidalgo County, Texas, located at] PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. [B. Consider the Preliminary Plat Approval of Shibui Village Subdivision ,being a1.75 acres tract of land, same being all of Lots 11 through 19, Ebony Hills Re-Subdivision, an] [C. Consider the Vacating Plat approval of IDEA Gateway Public School to Lots 49, 50, and 51, Lehigh Plaza Subdivision, being a 17.971 acre tract of land, being a vacating of] [D. Consider the Final Plat approval of RBR Subdivision No. 5 Subdivision, being a 50.00 acre tract of land out of Lot 4, Block 61, Alamo Land & Sugar Company’s Subdivision,] [E. Consider the Final Plat approval of Brownwood Subdivision Phase 3, being a 5.00 acre tract of land out of Lot 9, Section 233, Texas-Mexican Railway Company Survey] WE HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO GO IN AND SEE IF WE CAN GET A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS TEN A THROUGH ITEMS TEN E. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. [11. INFROMATION ONLY] ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU. [12. ADJOURNMENT] NOPE. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING, PLEASE? SO MOVED. SECOND. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MEETING ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.